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Old 05-06-2014, 11:47 PM
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

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I am with you on this.

The language of most Apostolic preachers is carefully tailored to fit their false theological slant.

There is one or two Apostolic preachers that I can think of who will at least refer to The Father in a way that you clearly know that they know there is a distinction between the Person of the Father and the Person of the Son, but when I queried them, they both made it very clear of their desire to remain faithful to the 21st century Apostolic doctrine they believe and preach.

One of those men is my Dad, another one is an a preacher that I personally think so very, very highly of and that I respect so much.
I'm glad that despite Prax's insistence that apostolic preachers have no problem saying those things that others see what I have seen.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:33 AM
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

Prax is a practicing defender of the faith as he believes it. He does what he does because he is who he is. I don't knock him for it.

Usually, I'll state my disagreement with him and move on or if I have any questions, he answers them.
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Maybe urs is the poor sample? Maybe mine is the typical experience?
Subjective reasoning
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Old 05-07-2014, 01:58 AM
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

It's funny...you guys realize that these were letters to churches? Right? And that every letter followed a typical form that was common during the Roman period...why do you expect people today to talk like they did then?

When you call someone do you say "Greetings to you and your house hold, in the name of God and his Son Jesus"???

Do you? When you talk to people do you use parables?
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Old 05-07-2014, 02:24 AM
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It's funny...you guys realize that these were letters to churches? Right? And that every letter followed a typical form that was common during the Roman period...why do you expect people today to talk like they did then?

When you call someone do you say "Greetings to you and your house hold, in the name of God and his Son Jesus"???

Do you? When you talk to people do you use parables?
When you pray tonight, will you begin the prayer with, "God you are the father of my lord and savior Jesus Christ and I want to think you for the salvation you gave to us through your son" Will you pray that? Or is there something in your beliefs so against praying and talking about God and Jesus in that way that you will not?
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When you pray tonight, will you begin the prayer with, "God you are the father of my lord and savior Jesus Christ and I want to think you for the salvation you gave to us through your son" Will you pray that? Or is there something in your beliefs so against praying and talking about God and Jesus in that way that you will not?
No, will you? How do you start your prayers?

BTW these were not prayers.

Why do I have to pray the exact words you post? More subjective reasoning.

Here is how I often start, but again not verbatim because we are not told to

"Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them:
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

Greet each other with a holy high five.
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No, will you? How do you start your prayers?

BTW these were not prayers.

Why do I have to pray the exact words you post? More subjective reasoning.

Here is how I often start, but again not verbatim because we are not told to

"Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them:
I sense someone doesn't want to be as new testament sounding as Paul and I guess that's okay.
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Re: Salutations in the new Testament

Question for Oneness:

Does Jesus have a God?
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Greet each other with a holy high five.
I wonder, if all the men in churches today would actually obey the Bible and greet each other with holy kisses, would there be any men in our churches that struggle with homosexuality?

Completely random thought, I know. Yet could there be something to this?
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