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05-21-2014, 08:58 AM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Allah is like the Hebrew Elohim. It's a generic word meaning God but now that I think of it, God/Elohim isn't really the personal name of God in the bible. Does Allah have a unique name for Him in Islam?
Greek was Theos. Latin Deos
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What I find fascinating is the concept of the Name of God in the old testament. I did a personal study many years back when I was trying to wrap my head around Jesus Name Baptism (vs. the titles).
And I find it very interesting that in the OT the temple, is continually referred to as a place for the Name of the Lord to dwell. In Duet. the Lord says that when they reach the promised land they will need to worship, not as the pagans, but in the Place he chooses for his name to dwell. And In 1 Kings 8, Solomon repeatedly says that he built the temple for the Name of the Lord.
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05-21-2014, 01:33 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by Dichotomy Girl
What I find fascinating is the concept of the Name of God in the old testament. I did a personal study many years back when I was trying to wrap my head around Jesus Name Baptism (vs. the titles).
And I find it very interesting that in the OT the temple, is continually referred to as a place for the Name of the Lord to dwell. In Duet. the Lord says that when they reach the promised land they will need to worship, not as the pagans, but in the Place he chooses for his name to dwell. And In 1 Kings 8, Solomon repeatedly says that he built the temple for the Name of the Lord.
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"Name" in the bible (Old and New) is a synonym for "Person" and at other times a synonym for a Person's authority.
there are a lot of other interesting aspects to the whole name subject. Im glad you were interested in it
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10-28-2014, 11:35 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Allah is not God.
Just saying.
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"Allah" is the English transliteration of the Arabic لله
It is pronounced "Allah" in English.
In any Arabic Bible لله, "Allah" occurs everywhere "God" occurs in an English Bible.
So Genesis 1 begins, "Allah created heaven and earth" and in the NT, Jesus is the Son of "Allah".
To say "Allah" is not God is like saying "Dieu" or "Dios" or any word for God in another language is not God.
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10-29-2014, 02:18 AM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by kenj
"Allah" is the English transliteration of the Arabic لله
It is pronounced "Allah" in English.
In any Arabic Bible لله, "Allah" occurs everywhere "God" occurs in an English Bible.
So Genesis 1 begins, "Allah created heaven and earth" and in the NT, Jesus is the Son of "Allah".
To say "Allah" is not God is like saying "Dieu" or "Dios" or any word for God in another language is not God.
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Two different topics
Is Allah, the God of the Quran the same God as the Bible. Bro Mike says NO!
Is Allah the Arabic word for God? Yes.
Those are two different topics
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2014, 10:49 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
"Allah" is certainly the word that is translated God, in English. However, it is not the same God as described among Christians. If it was, then we would be following the same doctrines, as well as the same apostles and prophets. We are not; rather, I am not.
The muslim god is the god of this world: it is not the God that has afforded us the gospel that saves in "...the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.
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11-23-2014, 11:18 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Jesus (at least according to Mark) called on the name of ELI
(אלהי אלהי למא שבקתני) uses term Eloi, from a very early version of the gospel
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Is the New Testament not written, essentially, in Greek? But the words of the Lord are pronounced in Aramaic, no? So the Lord was calling on El-ohim (El is short for El-ohim), saying EL-oi... "My God" = " My El-ohim".
But the NAME God (OUR God) has chosen is Ye-shua as His NAME (which some scholars would translate the NAME to Je-sus).
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11-24-2014, 12:02 AM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam
Not according to Jesus funny man.
Jesus (at least according to Mark) called on the name of ELI
(אלהי אלהי למא שבקתני) uses term Eloi, from a very early version of the gospel
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El was not God's name. El simply means "God", though it can also mean "Strength"
El is the shortened form of Eloah. Eloah is the singular hebrew way to say "God"
Eli is the word El with the suffix "I", making it "My God"
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-23-2015, 02:18 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
The human race is suffering because they fail to see that the name of God and the form of God isn't what is important, it is His reality.
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02-23-2015, 02:20 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
I wasnt implying that Allah of Islam is the same as the GOD of Christianity. You all missed the point. I was saying, is it wrong for an arabic speaking christian to call GOD allah?
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02-23-2015, 03:54 PM
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Re: Allah and other languages words for GOD
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Originally Posted by kenj
"Allah" is the English transliteration of the Arabic لله
It is pronounced "Allah" in English.
In any Arabic Bible لله, "Allah" occurs everywhere "God" occurs in an English Bible.
So Genesis 1 begins, "Allah created heaven and earth" and in the NT, Jesus is the Son of "Allah".
To say "Allah" is not God is like saying "Dieu" or "Dios" or any word for God in another language is not God.
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So the phrase that the Moslems say "There is no god but allah and muhammed is his prophet"...
Should be "There is no allah but allah and muhammed is his prophet?
Is that what you are saying?
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