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Old 10-20-2013, 01:20 PM
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Balderdash.

I have heard the 'reports' from local kids about what life is like in school. My kids (who are homeschooled) interact with neighborhood kids daily, and the picture they have presented to me, which corroborates the picture I have gotten from my own talking with neighborhood kids and their parents, is that the vast majority of kids in public school today are metrosexual highly effeminate dorks who would have NEVER made it one year in my old high school... and MY school was one of the 'nicer' ones.

And when I say 'highly effeminate dorks' you need to understand we live in a rural area where most of the kids we know are what back in my day would be called 'kickers' (that's the clean version) and 'country boys'.

Only SOME - a SMALL number - of the local public school kids leave the pavement to go hiking in the woods. Only SOME - a SMALL number - of these kids will actually get rough if someone insults them. I have personally witnessed kids being rude and insulting to one another (joking, they say) and the response was INCONCEIVABLE to what I know for a fact would have happened in my day.

I knew guys - and I was one of them - who literally LOOKED for excuses to 'throw down' with someone - anyone - anytime - any reason. And we constituted a large chunk of the school population. I don't know a SINGLE kid today, and neither do my kids, who have that mentality.

Oh I know they are out there, mostly in the inner city 'rough schools' where the vast majority of students are gang bangers anyway and 'bullying' is not in the vocabulary.

but I think the main problem with 'bullying' today is that waaaaay too many kids are soft, have a sense of entitlement, and have not known much in the way of real hardship. They cannot compute that other people, in the 'real world', don't give a flip about them or their 'sensibilities' and that the strong prey on the weak and further that such is a fact of life.

Like my dad used to say - 'that's life in the big city, kid, adapt or get eaten.'

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Nuff said.

I was raised in the Chicago suburbs.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:22 PM
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It doesn't make them effeminate, it indicates they ARE effeminate. What kind of boy is afraid to hike in the woods, play bb-gun wars? What kind of boy is afraid to 'deal with bugs and snakes, ewww'??? Most kids today couldn't function without their Android or iPhone.

My kids practically LIVE in the woods and the other kids think my kids are scary.

so yes, I would say most of the kids today are a bunch of effeminate wusses.




A Christian kid will refrain from being provoked into a violent defense of honour because they have PRINCIPLES by which their actions are governed, namely they believe they are commanded to 'turn the other cheek'. The kids today that I speak of, are largely unsaved, and the only principle guiding their lack of defending honour is they are weak, cowardly, and have no principle beyond immediate avoidance of pain.

One should never mistake cowardice for principled avoidance of violence, or vice versa.

Let me put it this way - there is a high school kid in our neighborhood who is a football player and power lifter. He's a big dude, he could (if he wanted to) probably beat the tar out of any adult. He's literally scared of my two teenage daughters. I don't mean 'scared' like most boys are scared of girls, I mean seriously SCARED, he thinks they are crazy because quite simply they are tougher than he is. They hike in the woods barefoot (it's like pulling teeth to get them to wear shoes), they build homemade rafts to navigate the local river, they have gone alligator hunting with nothing but a stick (literally) - and no they didn't kill the gator, they just played with it for a while as the neighborhood kids stood around commenting on how insane and freaky my kids were - i could go on and on.

Yet my kids are really no different than most kids I knew when I was growing up.

So yeah, most kids today are wusses, most adolescent boys in public school today are effeminate dorks, and my kids much prefer to be around other kids that are either Christian homeschoolers or at least kids from military families (preferably USMC or at least Army. Sailors and fly-boys don't cut it with my daughters lol).
Your kids may be tough in the woods, but I'm betting they would be eaten alive in the big city.
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Old 10-20-2013, 01:32 PM
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Your kids may be tough in the woods, but I'm betting they would be eaten alive in the big city.
We've lived in the big city, in the 'bad part' of town. Trust me, they aren't rural bumpkins who don't know how to survive in the big city.
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Nuff said.

I was raised in the Chicago suburbs.
Rofl! I was raised on the south side of Houston. Third Ward was my stomping grounds. Used to make runs up to Fifth Ward for fun and games. Neither one of them are 'suburbs'. I grew up with bangers, bikers, and assorted other riff raff.

Rural and urban aren't much different when it comes to a brass check. Been there done that.

Dad was a greaser from Quad Cities (Davenport, Rock Island, Moline, etc). Mom was 'white trash small town biker chick' down in Galveston County.

I grew up on the dark side, saw things even my kids haven't dreamed of.

But I have no doubt whatsoever that, generally speaking, kids today in America are more or less several orders of magnitude weaker and less 'survivable' than my or previous generations.

And I say that not to belittle them, I say that because I really feel sorry for them, because tough times are coming back to this country, and I fear many will simply not make it.
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I don't know why Jordan felt that his life was so worthless that ending it was better than facing it,
Now back to the original topic. One of the reasons 'Jordan' felt this way was probably because of, or at least influenced by, the nihilism so prevalent in public culture today, especially in public schools. Society is literally smothering young people today with political correctness garbage which is nothing more than communism. We have communism running rampant in america, especially in the educational system. Communist countries were always drab, dreary, suffocating places that sucked the life out of the people. Combine that with popular entertainment, and 'popular youth culture' designed by Hollyweird's antichrist communists and shoved down their throats everyday, and what do you expect? Pointless people with totally messed up 'values' and no training in how to deal with life.

And the horrible thing about it is that all this has been PLANNED. It's intentional.

America has become the Animal Farm.
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And here's the REAL source of the problems:

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

And again,

The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.

And,

Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand.

And,

Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

As a nation we have rejected God, and so it is no wonder our children are enslaved by the devil.
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Rofl! I was raised on the south side of Houston. Third Ward was my stomping grounds. Used to make runs up to Fifth Ward for fun and games. Neither one of them are 'suburbs'. I grew up with bangers, bikers, and assorted other riff raff. Rural and urban aren't much different when it comes to a brass check. Been there done that. Dad was a greaser from Quad Cities (Davenport, Rock Island, Moline, etc). Mom was 'white trash small town biker chick' down in Galveston County. I grew up on the dark side, saw things even my kids haven't dreamed of. But I have no doubt whatsoever that, generally speaking, kids today in America are more or less several orders of magnitude weaker and less 'survivable' than my or previous generations. And I say that not to belittle them, I say that because I really feel sorry for them, because tough times are coming back to this country, and I fear many will simply not make it.
I try to stay on the main highways as much as possible. I have had less than pleasurable experiences wondering into areas that I am unfamiliar with. The only time spent in the loop (610) is when I am on the 10 or the 59. I do not go more than two blocks distance from a highway.
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I try to stay on the main highways as much as possible. I have had less than pleasurable experiences wondering into areas that I am unfamiliar with. The only time spent in the loop (610) is when I am on the 10 or the 59. I do not go more than two blocks distance from a highway.
That's pretty good tactics, actually.
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Rofl! I was raised on the south side of Houston. Third Ward was my stomping grounds. Used to make runs up to Fifth Ward for fun and games. Neither one of them are 'suburbs'. I grew up with bangers, bikers, and assorted other riff raff.

Rural and urban aren't much different when it comes to a brass check. Been there done that.

Dad was a greaser from Quad Cities (Davenport, Rock Island, Moline, etc). Mom was 'white trash small town biker chick' down in Galveston County.

I grew up on the dark side, saw things even my kids haven't dreamed of.

But I have no doubt whatsoever that, generally speaking, kids today in America are more or less several orders of magnitude weaker and less 'survivable' than my or previous generations.

And I say that not to belittle them, I say that because I really feel sorry for them, because tough times are coming back to this country, and I fear many will simply not make it.
So is it still true that you still need at least two years of tap and three to four years of jazz before being allowed to rumble?

And did you ever meet a girl named Maria?

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Rofl! I was raised on the south side of Houston. Third Ward was my stomping grounds. Used to make runs up to Fifth Ward for fun and games. Neither one of them are 'suburbs'. I grew up with bangers, bikers, and assorted other riff raff.

Rural and urban aren't much different when it comes to a brass check. Been there done that.

Dad was a greaser from Quad Cities (Davenport, Rock Island, Moline, etc). Mom was 'white trash small town biker chick' down in Galveston County.

I grew up on the dark side, saw things even my kids haven't dreamed of.

But I have no doubt whatsoever that, generally speaking, kids today in America are more or less several orders of magnitude weaker and less 'survivable' than my or previous generations.

And I say that not to belittle them, I say that because I really feel sorry for them, because tough times are coming back to this country, and I fear many will simply not make it.
Yet you compare your experience to what your kids are experiencing now in a totally different culture. I can't do that since my kids were raised in a totally different environment than I was since we no longer live in a big city area by far.

But let's get to the heart of the matter. You state, basically, that the kids of today are wussies and effeminate. Do you pass that belief to your children? Since you feel your children are somehow better off than the other children in your neighborhood, do they also believe that?

That's the problem with the bullies of today. They believe that, in some way, they are superior to others, especially those they feel are less than worthy of life, and they get it often times from their own parents. Now, I'm not saying that of you because I'm sure there are reasons other than educational that your children are homeschooled and also that I believe you are a great father to them, but do you understand what I'm saying? Not everyone is that way.

The bullying of today goes beyond calling people fat, ugly, giving them wedgies and stuffing them in lockers. Teens are at an age where life is very confusing, and they are trying to determine who they are. They aren't a child and they aren't an adult. Peer pressure is very real and very dangerous.

There is an epidemic among our children that we just can't ignore or chalk it up to parents coddling them too much. Most of these kids don't even live with both parents. In addition, it seems to affect white children more than all the others combined.

Girls are shooting and hanging themselves. They are jumping off buildings. Those are violent actions, not the actions of someone who is coddled and weak. Suicides among girls are drastically on the rise. I don't believe it's because they are raised in a less harsh and cruel world than the one you and I were raised in, nor do I believe they have led a more coddled and sheltered life than we did, making them weak.
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