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Old 06-19-2013, 08:01 PM
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The "House Church" of which I am the eldest member, and consequently by consensual agreement serve as the de facto leader, endeavor to conduct all of our activities in accordance with Paul's instructions as recorded in I Corinthians 14:26-40. We are an "every-member" participatory group.

All members were, at one time, active and devout members of local institutional congregations (primary UPCI), who, for individual reasons, grew dissatisfied with the manner in which activities at such locales were being conducted and elected to separate themselves.

We are a group who truly believe that only Jesus Christ serves as the Head of the church (regardless of its numerical size), and seek to operate accordingly.

We refrain from the establishment or adherence to pre-conceived agendas, and seek to be sensitive to the Spirit's leading in everything we do (albeit there are occasions when a member might tender a request that we address a specific portion of Scripture or doctrine at our next meeting).

Our primary goal is personal edification, growing in grace and knowledge as we commune together as fellow saints. In the more than 26+ years since receiving the Holy Ghost and subsequent conversion to Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal doctrines, I have never been more confident that the manner in which our "House Church" operates is approved of God. I could never again be a part of organized Christianity.
Amen! I completely concur with this and especially with the bolded above!
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:02 PM
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Re: Apostolic house churches?

MTD, thank you for elaborating on the paltalk.com option. We have very poor internet here where we live, and paltalk.com probably would be tough for us. But, it is definitely an option for those who have no one in their area to fellowship with.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:41 AM
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MTD, thank you for elaborating on the paltalk.com option. We have very poor internet here where we live, and paltalk.com probably would be tough for us. But, it is definitely an option for those who have no one in their area to fellowship with.
Its a great tool. I opened a room last night and taught and discussed Oneness doctrine with various people. We meet with like minded friends on Sunday. Then through the week I may open rooms where I teach and take comments or questions. Sometimes it may just be open fellowship and discussion of any given topic.

Oneness people are definitely in the minority there but I really praise God for it.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:39 AM
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Esaias - can you tell us about your home church experience?
We had been meeting with several families previously. They would meet on Wednesday evening and twice on Sunday. Unfortunately, we have moved too far from there to meet with them and plus I heard they may not be meeting regularly anymore anyway since most of the families have moved too far apart from each other.

They were Oneness Pentecostal, did not belong to a denomination, believed in modesty but did not preach a clothesline 'standard' like many Pentecostal churches (although I would say most of them dressed more modestly than most of the UPCI folks I have seen the last several years...and I'm talking those who still adhere to 'standards'...)

We did not believe the same about everything, as our family believes in the Lord's Supper with one loaf and one cup and they apparently believed in 'spiritual communion' whatever that is. They also did not believe in head coverings for the sisters but believed their hair was their covering.

They had been meeting in one another's homes all their lives except for the eldest brother who had been converted from catholicism back in the 1960s or so. The eldest sister would tell us of home church meetings back when she was a kid (that would have been the 50s) so apparently they have connections with apostolic house churches that are just as old as, if not older than, the UPCI's existence as an organization. Most of them were from Louisiana but had connections with brethren in Alabama and Mississippi.

They also had some fellowship with some Church of Jesus Christ folks up in Tennessee (but those people were not house church people as far as I know).

Meetings began with prayer and nothing else started until everyone was done praying. There was no official 'calling to order' that would end the prayer, something I liked and believe in whole heartedly. The entire meeting would usually just flow right out of the prayer meeting. If anyone had anything they wanted to share they did, whether it was a teaching, a question, a song, prayer request, testimony, whatever. The eldest (who had no title but was the de facto elder of the assembly) would often share some teaching or insight as well. Another thing they did regularly (though not every single time as nothing was really set in stone) was to read Scripture, and whoever had any insight into it's application would share as we went along.

I think in one week we would read through more scripture than the entire time I have ever been in a denominational church, whether UPCI or ALJC or independent or charismatic or Baptist or whatever, lol. They liked going through the bible chapter by chapter, book by book, verse by verse (another thing I whole heartedly agree with).

If someone had a prayer request, the elder would grab a chair and set in the midst of us, the one requestng prayer would sit there and the church would gather around and pray for them or their need. Often people would volunteer to 'sit in' or 'stand in' for someone who was absent, wayward, or sick but unable to be there.

These people had a genuine love for God, and you could not miss it. I think I can honestly say my wife and I were ministered to more abundantly in those simple meetings than in any other church we attended. Not saying we weren't blessed and strengthened in those other churches, but nothing as solidly consistently edifying and encouraging as meeting with the brethren 'who met in their homes'.

I also have to say this - those meetings were consistently 'Pentecostal', each and every time, which is more than I can say for most institutional churches I have attended. They had no choir, no 4-piece rock band or anything like that, but there was more soul-touching moving of the Spirit and honest heart-felt worship and openness and 'body ministry' and genuine praise and worship there than anywhere else I have ever been with one exception - the little UPC I attended where I was baptised which was in the middle of a full blown revival (what I call a 'real' revival, not those 'scheduled for this weekend only' type 'revivals'). I have not seen THOSE types of meetings since then (back in the early 90s).
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:04 PM
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Re: Apostolic house churches?

I wish someone would start an Apostolic/Pentecostal House Church Directory. Where people that want to connect in homes with others of like faith, could find each other.

There may be people in this town that feels the same as I do, but how to find them. I even thought of putting an add in the paper, but decided that would be dangerous.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:39 PM
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Who here is part of an apostolic house church?
I will become part of an apostolic house church when the persecution of the church makes larger meetings illegal / impossible or I move to some desolate place where there is no church to attend. Until then I will enjoy gathering together with larger groups of people.

My anecodtal experience with house churches is that they are usually made up of two types of people. Sometimes the same person fits bot of these descriptions;

1. Someone who has strong peculiar beliefs about how things should be done and never fits in anywhere so just does their own thing with a teeny tiny house church. There they can control things to make them exactly they way they want it.

2. Someone who is unwilling to submit themselves to a pastor so does house church with either themself as the leader or someone they have found who shares their particular beliefs.

I am sure there are exceptions to this but that is what I have observed anecdotally through the years.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:30 AM
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So... only 3 members currently in a house church here?

Wow.
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:20 AM
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I would like to have some kind of small study/prayer group. But I'm not interested in leaving my church.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:51 AM
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I wish someone would start an Apostolic/Pentecostal House Church Directory. Where people that want to connect in homes with others of like faith, could find each other.

There may be people in this town that feels the same as I do, but how to find them. I even thought of putting an add in the paper, but decided that would be dangerous.
Just because people agree on Oneness and Acts 2:38 does not mean they could fellowship in peace in a home Church. There is more to the New Testament Church that is important than just these things. Having Church in the home is not the cure all some think it is. Some see home Church as a way they can escape some heavy handed Preacher and saints would be able to teach whatever they think is right. You can wind up in just as bad of shape with that than with an institutional Church.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:41 AM
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we have lots of house churches in Brazil...but we also have church buildings...no mattter where you meet people are people and problems arise...I do think I know enough about the Bible to know there will be a time there will be no freedom to meet in buildings...of cours most Americans laugh at this thought but once China did too...
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