Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by n david
Out of context when applied to gun control or self defense.
Those aren't about self-defense. They are about not being vengeful, not seeking revenge, not holding a grudge, etc....
Not applicable to this conversation.
not a huge leap between "self defense" and "pre-emptive" self defense. self defense is just another war monger excuse, nothing based in the true principles of scripture.
Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by Timmy
". . . but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
"And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other . . . "
Slapping someone's face is not life-threatening. It's about pride. You know the secular term for it....b slap. It's a direct affront to a person's pride and ego. THAT is what the principle of that verse is about. It has absolutely nothing to do with a person defending himself against someone threatening his life.
Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
not a huge leap between "self defense" and "pre-emptive" self defense. self defense is just another war monger excuse, nothing based in the true principles of scripture.
There's a massive leap between a person defending himself against someone trying to kill him, and a person walking up to someone whom he thinks may attack him and pre-emptively attacking that person.
My owning a gun for self-defense does NOT make me a warmonger. And if you think so, you should find out what warmonger actually means.
Re: Guns Don't Kill People 4 Year Olds Kill People
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
i am not saying that owning a gun is anti constitutional. i am saying that christians shouldn't own a gun. there is no scripture for pants on women, marijuana, cocaine, lsd, heroin, movie theaters, tv, worldly music either. does that mean everything is ok according to the bible? what exactly would you use a gun for (minus hunting) if you are not to resist evil with violence according to the scriptures? the principle of resist not evil, turn the other cheek, love your enemies, put up your sword are clear in the bible. how is owning a gun consistent with these biblical principles?
If you have a daughter/mother/niece and saw them getting raped, would you resist evil and allow your family member to get raped, or would you become violent and pull the rapist from off your family member?
Remember, under criminal justice, touching or spitting on a person is considered battery/assualt. Pulling the rapist off your family member is resorting to violence (physically touching and pulling another person off your family member). What would you do?
Me? I'd kick them in the head and keep him/her at gunpoint while calling the police. If the rapist had a knife, I'd make a 40 caliber sized window in his/her forehead or temple.
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