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View Poll Results: Has your income gotten better or worse?
50% better 3 17.65%
25% better 4 23.53%
10% better 1 5.88%
10% worse 3 17.65%
25% worse 1 5.88%
50% worse 2 11.76%
My income has stayed the same 3 17.65%
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:21 PM
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Our gross income has actually gotten better but I voted for 10% Worse because our net earnings are worse after taxes.
That makes sense to vote like that then.
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Re: How Has the Economy Affected Your Income?

A lot of people's incomes have actually gotten better. So, how has your income improved?
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Re: How Has the Economy Affected Your Income?

I voted about the same. Tax burden still seems huge, but a bit less than five years ago because we have added two children...
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Re: How Has the Economy Affected Your Income?

Mine is about the same after considering expenses.

What the economy meant for evil, God turned into good.

Last Sept I was notified that my job was being surplused. I had to train my replacement. I was given 60 days to find something else within the company. If I didn’t find something in that 60 day period, I would be terminated. My last day was set for the day after Thanksgiving.

All my efforts in finding a job both internally and externally were for naught.

Then I got an email asking me to apply for a position with the company. It was about 3 weeks before my termination date. I applied on a Thursday, was hired on Friday. It was a promotion with a pay raise!

Some points of interest that show the hand of God.
1. Hiring in my company is notoriously slow. The process is generally apply, wait, interview, wait, receive some notification, wait, receive offer, THEN after 3 weeks or so you get a new start date. This time, I applied was interviewed notified, and received the offer in 24 hours.
2. NO ONE gets a promotion when they have been surplused. I know many people who have taken demotions to stay employed. Not only am I the only person I know who has gotten a promotion during a surplus status, but I don’t know anyone who knows anyone. I was at lunch with a friend on Friday, he is not a believer. He once again was just shaking his head at the very idea that this happened to me.
3. The company was cutting jobs to save money. They don’t give raises to people when they are trying to save money. I got a 5% pay raise.

I said my income was about the same because our expenses have risen and with the new SS tax, and the rise in cost of Medical Insurance, our income advances are pretty much offset. We are treading water. But God is good.
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Mine is about the same after considering expenses.

What the economy meant for evil, God turned into good.

Last Sept I was notified that my job was being surplused. I had to train my replacement. I was given 60 days to find something else within the company. If I didn’t find something in that 60 day period, I would be terminated. My last day was set for the day after Thanksgiving.

All my efforts in finding a job both internally and externally were for naught.

Then I got an email asking me to apply for a position with the company. It was about 3 weeks before my termination date. I applied on a Thursday, was hired on Friday. It was a promotion with a pay raise!

Some points of interest that show the hand of God.
1. Hiring in my company is notoriously slow. The process is generally apply, wait, interview, wait, receive some notification, wait, receive offer, THEN after 3 weeks or so you get a new start date. This time, I applied was interviewed notified, and received the offer in 24 hours.
2. NO ONE gets a promotion when they have been surplused. I know many people who have taken demotions to stay employed. Not only am I the only person I know who has gotten a promotion during a surplus status, but I don’t know anyone who knows anyone. I was at lunch with a friend on Friday, he is not a believer. He once again was just shaking his head at the very idea that this happened to me.
3. The company was cutting jobs to save money. They don’t give raises to people when they are trying to save money. I got a 5% pay raise.

I said my income was about the same because our expenses have risen and with the new SS tax, and the rise in cost of Medical Insurance, our income advances are pretty much offset. We are treading water. But God is good.
That's great, Ferd!

That must have been hard to train your replacement. Do you think it was your attitude during training your replacement that had anything to do with your promotion and raise?
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That's great, Ferd!

That must have been hard to train your replacement. Do you think it was your attitude during training your replacement that had anything to do with your promotion and raise?

Some of the people who were involved in this were moved from my company to the outsourcing company. The people I had to train (there were actually several that were taking different parts of my responsibilities) were people I have known and worked with for years.

They were/are not happy to have been forced against their will to work for this other company so as hard as it was for me, it was equally hard for them.

And no, my attitude had nothing to do with the job I got. Totally different org. They way it works is you can only be hurt by not playing ball. There are not extra points for playing ball.
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Some of the people who were involved in this were moved from my company to the outsourcing company. The people I had to train (there were actually several that were taking different parts of my responsibilities) were people I have known and worked with for years.

They were/are not happy to have been forced against their will to work for this other company so as hard as it was for me, it was equally hard for them.

And no, my attitude had nothing to do with the job I got. Totally different org. They way it works is you can only be hurt by not playing ball. There are not extra points for playing ball.
Hmm. Yes, so often that is the case, that playing ball makes no difference. It is often more who you know and even sometimes who you are willing to kiss up to or lie to.

Well, I am happy for you that you were promoted and you give God the glory.
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Re: How Has the Economy Affected Your Income?

8 people have improved incomes. 8 have same or worse.

Better than I thought it would be.
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Mine is about the same after considering expenses.

What the economy meant for evil, God turned into good.

Last Sept I was notified that my job was being surplused. I had to train my replacement. I was given 60 days to find something else within the company. If I didn’t find something in that 60 day period, I would be terminated. My last day was set for the day after Thanksgiving.

All my efforts in finding a job both internally and externally were for naught.

Then I got an email asking me to apply for a position with the company. It was about 3 weeks before my termination date. I applied on a Thursday, was hired on Friday. It was a promotion with a pay raise!

Some points of interest that show the hand of God.
1. Hiring in my company is notoriously slow. The process is generally apply, wait, interview, wait, receive some notification, wait, receive offer, THEN after 3 weeks or so you get a new start date. This time, I applied was interviewed notified, and received the offer in 24 hours.
2. NO ONE gets a promotion when they have been surplused. I know many people who have taken demotions to stay employed. Not only am I the only person I know who has gotten a promotion during a surplus status, but I don’t know anyone who knows anyone. I was at lunch with a friend on Friday, he is not a believer. He once again was just shaking his head at the very idea that this happened to me.
3. The company was cutting jobs to save money. They don’t give raises to people when they are trying to save money. I got a 5% pay raise.

I said my income was about the same because our expenses have risen and with the new SS tax, and the rise in cost of Medical Insurance, our income advances are pretty much offset. We are treading water. But God is good.
Whew! Glad to hear things worked out. I went through about 4 months of uncertainly four years ago when there was a 50% chance I was going to lose my job. Very unnerving at my age!
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Re: How Has the Economy Affected Your Income?

My income has remained steady but since my pay raise is only about 2.5% per year I have actually lost ground the last few years as inflation is slightly higher than that.

In the economy we have had the last few years I feel very blessed to have a good job.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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