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Old 02-04-2013, 09:39 AM
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Re: The Security of the Believer

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Great scriptures.
Yeah. Wonderful. Especially 2 Peter.
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You know that was her comment and not a scripture.

At least she did not post this:

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I firmly stand against the doctrine of eternal security as umbilical and false!

Sorry Luke. Just having a little fun at your expense. We all know what you meant.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:41 AM
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You know that was her comment and not a scripture.
Seems like an accurate paraphrase, to me. Is it wrong?

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

(She said "I see that if we sin again after baptism that we suffer GREAT punishments.")

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

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Sorry Luke. Just having a little fun at your expense. We all know what you meant.
I didn't notice that!
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lol i just noticed that myself as well
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:48 PM
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Well...couldn't the Bible be considered to be our umbilical cord to God?
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Yes they can lose it

Lack of faith

Gal 5:4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
Gal 5:5 For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:32 PM
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Re: The Security of the Believer

Instead of going back and forth about when a person's name is written in the book of life why skip over and not address the passage from Romans:

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
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Re: The Security of the Believer

Jesus Christ gives us understanding about those who do not bear fruit.

6He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon , and found none.7Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold , these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down ; why cumbereth it the ground?8And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:9And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down . Luke 13:6-8

Jesus gives time for one to bear fruit. If it does not happen by then HE CUTS IT DOWN.

Does not seem to hard to understand.

He gives a believer the Holy Ghost. He gives them grace. He expects them to bear fruit. If they dont he sets forth clear warnings of their destruction.
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Instead of going back and forth about when a person's name is written in the book of life why skip over and not address the passage from Romans:

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Ok in Romans 11:20-23, when was the person's name written in the book of life.....and when was it taken out.....and will it ever be put back in again......and will it be taken out again....and will it be put back in again.....and taken out again?
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Jesus Christ gives us understanding about those who do not bear fruit.

6He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon , and found none.7Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold , these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down ; why cumbereth it the ground?8And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:9And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down . Luke 13:6-8

Jesus gives time for one to bear fruit. If it does not happen by then HE CUTS IT DOWN.

Does not seem to hard to understand.

He gives a believer the Holy Ghost. He gives them grace. He expects them to bear fruit. If they dont he sets forth clear warnings of their destruction.
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I'd be curious as to what you think about the whole of Matthew 25?
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