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01-29-2013, 02:39 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
I know that some children that have benefits that are not used by their parent(s) correctly. Some trade them for drugs, or other habits. Or waste them on junk food. Maybe the parents need to get good grades, instead of the children.
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01-29-2013, 02:40 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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Well, I personally think elements of it are a good idea. If we leave grades out how about using general attendance? I have no problems with tying a parents welfare to actually making sure their kids attend school.
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Iffy, even on that point. Children aren't responsible if their parents are too lazy or irresponsible to get up and take them to school or to make sure they get on the bus. I'm still not okay with essentially denying benefits to needy children based on something over which they may have no control.
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01-29-2013, 02:44 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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I know that some children that have benefits that are not used by their parent(s) correctly. Some trade them for drugs, or other habits. Or waste them on junk food. Maybe the parents need to get good grades, instead of the children.
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 I'm fine with this. Require parents to attend classes and pass them. 
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01-29-2013, 02:45 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
This is an EXCELLENT idea and tie in a 1.0 GPA requirement.
The children of welfare recipients are still the responsibility of the welfare recipients. This is an excellent incentive for parents to practice the minimal parenting skills.
Further, once children get the idea that their family may get money NOW if they perform in school, maybe it will discourage them from skipping school to go into the workforce to "provide for their families."
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01-29-2013, 02:46 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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I'm fine with this. Require parents to attend classes and pass them. |
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-29-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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Excellent idea!
But I am short on the details about this.
Does anyone know if this is actually the law somewhere?
if so, where and how is it working for them?
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I don't know if that is a good idea...
Kid screws up one semester and gets lower grades....family starves for a semester... Really?
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01-29-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
This is an EXCELLENT idea and tie in a 1.0 GPA requirement.
The children of welfare recipients are still the responsibility of the welfare recipients. This is an excellent incentive for parents to practice the minimal parenting skills.
Further, once children get the idea that their family may get money NOW if they perform in school, maybe it will discourage them from skipping school to go into the workforce to "provide for their families."
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What age should it start with, JD?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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01-29-2013, 02:48 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
This is an EXCELLENT idea and tie in a 1.0 GPA requirement.
The children of welfare recipients are still the responsibility of the welfare recipients. This is an excellent incentive for parents to practice the minimal parenting skills.
Further, once children get the idea that their family may get money NOW if they perform in school, maybe it will discourage them from skipping school to go into the workforce to "provide for their families."
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And if those children have perfect attendance, do all their homework and STILL get bad grades, what then? They don't deserve to eat?
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-29-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
This is an EXCELLENT idea and tie in a 1.0 GPA requirement.
The children of welfare recipients are still the responsibility of the welfare recipients. This is an excellent incentive for parents to practice the minimal parenting skills.
Further, once children get the idea that their family may get money NOW if they perform in school, maybe it will discourage them from skipping school to go into the workforce to "provide for their families."
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Yes,
and when irresponsible parents start losing benifits they can then beat their children since they, of course, are to blame.
I'm sorry, but this is putting adult size responsibility on the child.
I can see some of these parents now, "Its your fault we are starving because you can't bring your grades up" or even worse " we are hungry because you are stupid".
Its a bad idea all the way around.
Tell you what, get it passed federal law that recipients are required to take a drug test. Then we'll consider talking about the kids grades.
Or better yet, if you want to grade the kids, grade their clothes. If the kid gets a failing grade because they are wearing clothes the local homeless shelter wouldn't take yet their parents are in Caddilacs and Tommy Hilfinger then no benefits.
Then go remove the child from the home.
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01-29-2013, 06:51 PM
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Re: Reduced Welfare Benefits for Poor Grades
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Originally Posted by Wonder
Definitely do not agree with this. This would not benefit the kids, it isn't the kids fault that they are depending on help. Some people really do need this help ! Of course there are those adults that abuse this help and it is those kids that would probably be abused by parents if they were the cause of the decline in help.
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Absolutely! Sounds like a horrible plan.
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