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11-13-2012, 04:20 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Scotty,
No it isn't.
In fact, that has been one of the criticisms that Romney was never able to realiate against. During this campaign season he has said both that he would repeal "obamacare" and that he would not repeal "obamacare. He has also admitted that the framework for "obamacare" is very similar to the Mass model.
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Similar, but not identical. I believe thats why 1. its working there. and 2. Mass residents are not up in arms about it.
Here is my question. Mass went to Bamer. Is that a mandate for Obamacare because Romneycare works? Or is it a slap to Romney because they feared federal sized Romneycare?
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11-13-2012, 04:21 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by scotty
Yes. Have you not been paying attention? California has passed law requiring hospitals to treat illegal aliens. Undocumented, sorry. These same people are also elegible for social programs.
You really got to pull your head out of the sand.
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Where is the link?
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11-13-2012, 04:57 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Light
Where is the link?
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Notice the first four paragraphs of page 6. And remember, though it says they are "not legally elegible because they do not have social security numbers", California has since given them SS#'s, as well as Drivers license.
Page 7 talks about how HUD, school officials, hospitals, and Medicaid officials are restricted from asking ones immigration status.
Better yet, just read the whole thing. You will see.
Also note that this report was written in 1993 !!!! The illegal population has increased ten fold since then.
http://www.gao.gov/assets/110/105221.pdf
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Here is Obammers "Dream Act".
"The work permit young immigrants can receive with the deferral opens many doors that have been firmly shut. They can obtain valid Social Security numbers and apply for driver’s licenses, professional certificates and financial aid for college."
Two things to note here. This was back in August. They were givenSS#'s and Drivers License, which means they can vote. Obama won the hispanic vote to the tune of millions of votes. Coincidence ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/us...anted=all&_r=0
Oh yeah, they now also qualify for college tuition and grants.
Got any children or grandchildren with college dreams??
I do, they now have to compete with people who come here illegally and have given no contribution to the system what-so-ever for my daughters money to go to college.
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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11-13-2012, 05:24 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Light
You are clueless.
You like DB & Esther will post any thing even if its not true.Get your facts straight. If you tell a lie long enough some fools will believe it.
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Facts are facts. California has lost a LOT of jobs to other states like Texas because California has a really high tax rate and an unfriendly business environment due to regulations and fees
Read here for an example with documented links
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=40961
In addition Ca just voted itself a tax hike on the rich (what few are left) and an increase on an already high sales tax to fund a school system where the teachers salaries and pensions are the highest in the nation
Many Ca cities have already filed for bankruptcy due to it's having to pay high salaries to public union employes and their pensions
Here is another link to a thread I started here with a link to an example
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=40964
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11-13-2012, 05:38 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by scotty
Similar, but not identical. I believe thats why 1. its working there. and 2. Mass residents are not up in arms about it.
Here is my question. Mass went to Bamer. Is that a mandate for Obamacare because Romneycare works? Or is it a slap to Romney because they feared federal sized Romneycare?
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90% of MA residents already had insurance before ORomney put his plan in place. So, I'm thinking they voted for Obama because they want socialized medicine. Although, they don't view it that way. They just want something done about it and feel Obama is the only one that moved it forward.
Is Romney's healthcare working?
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RomneyCare's Unhappy Anniversary
The Massachusetts Medical Society found that 56% of physicians are not taking on new patients. Wait times for appointments are climbing. Just two years after reform took root, one clinic in Western Massachusetts had amassed a waiting list of 1,600 patients.
RomneyCare expanded coverage simply by putting more people on the dole. Since 2006, 440,000 people have been added to state-funded insurance rolls. Medicaid enrollment alone is up nearly 25%, and Massachusetts is struggling to cover the cost.
Of the previously uninsured individuals who have signed up, 68% are receiving free or subsidized coverage.
…Despite the expansion of insurance coverage, people are continuing to seek routine medical care in expensive emergency rooms. Emergency room visits climbed 9%–or 3 million visits–between 2004 and 2008. The bill for uncompensated care has exceeded $400 million.
http://www.forbes.com/2011/04/25/hea...ney_print.html
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If they are experiencing all of this in just five years, what is Obamacare going to do on the national level?
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11-13-2012, 05:40 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Light
You are clueless.
You like DB & Esther will post any thing even if its not true.Get your facts straight. If you tell a lie long enough some fools will believe it.
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In addition I submit the following facts with a link to verify the information
California has the 2nd worst state income tax in the nation.
9.3% tax bracket starts at $48,029 for people filing as individuals. 10.3% tax starts at $1,000,000. Governor Brown has put on the ballot a prop to change the “millionaires’ tax” to 13.3%, starting at $500,000 – including capital gains. If approved, CA will be by far #1 in income tax rates. We will be 21% higher than the 2nd highest state (Hawaii), 34% higher than the 3rd highest state (Oregon), and a heck of a lot higher than all the rest – including six states with zero state income tax.
CA has the highest state sales tax rate in the nation. - 7.25% This does not include local sales taxes.
CA has the 3rd highest state unemployment rate. (July, 2012) – 10.7%.
National unemployment rate 8.3%. National unemployment rate not including CA is only 8.0%, making the CA unemployment rate 34.2% higher than the average of the other 49 states.
California’s 2012 Business Tax Climate ranks 3rd worst in the nation.
It only falls behind New Jersey and New York state.
CA public school teachers the highest paid in the nation.
CA students rank 48th in math achievement, 49th in reading.
CA has the highest gas tax (tied with NY) in the nation at 67.7 cents/gallon (June, 2012).
National average is 48.9 cents. CA also has the nation’s 5th highest diesel tax – 71.9 cents/gallon. National average is 53.8 cents.
http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/201...-other-states/
46% of Californians seriously considering leaving
http://reason.com/assets/db/13505849198068.pdf
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-13-2012, 05:43 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Light
Esther is Scotty's above quote true?
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It's an exaggeration but he is right about California going down the tube
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
When did CA give a DL and SSN to illegals? When did they stop asking immigration status for programs like welfare or snap? And when did they start giving free medical care to illegals aside from emergency care that is denied to nobody?
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11-13-2012, 11:09 PM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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Originally Posted by Esther
Light anyone disagrees with you you consider a liar?
You need to check your facts and get your head out of the clouds.
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It's funny to me that when someone disagrees with a liberal they get poisonous.
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11-14-2012, 06:13 AM
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Re: Mourning in America: Layoffs Galore After Elec
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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