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10-02-2012, 11:13 PM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by CC1
While on the one hand I do understand the financial reasons for charging for the stream it does seem strange to charge for something you would think they would want as many Oneness folks as possible to see and be blessed and encouraged by.
Not exactly the same thing but years ago I was a member of a church that put on a large Easter musical with a cast of over 100 people. It was an amazing production and drew busloads of people from all over. My pastor had always had the same mindset as myself in saying he would never charge for something like that at the church.
However after two or three years of doing it he realized that because it was free a lot of people were coming back to see it two and three times. We had limited seating for around 1000 people or so and only doing three or four performances. By starting to charge it discouraged people from coming more than once so others could see it for the first time and it also brought in money to underwrite the production to make it better each year. For persons who could not afford the ticket price we had a free performance that was essentially our dress rehearsal.
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I could understand this if they were charging anything regarding a reasonable price. However, they are not doing so. This is the same problem that they have had since they started charging to attend the GC. Every year, they have raised the prices, which proceeded to suppress attendance. Then they wish to complain of an ever decreasing attendance. This will achieve the same result.
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10-02-2012, 11:14 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
Go sell some peanut brittle and you might have enough green to view the GC.
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10-03-2012, 07:51 AM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Jay
I could understand this if they were charging anything regarding a reasonable price. However, they are not doing so. This is the same problem that they have had since they started charging to attend the GC. Every year, they have raised the prices, which proceeded to suppress attendance. Then they wish to complain of an ever decreasing attendance. This will achieve the same result.
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You have pretty much stated my view also. You would think they would encourage as much participation as possible.
The years I attended GC's I thought the hour spent taking up offerings brought in the money to cover hosting the event.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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10-04-2012, 10:34 AM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
to view live streaming cost $25 - $150. what a rip off. I can get more substance from a free episcopal sermon. how lame. no way I'm paying. you would think they actually had something important to say.
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Don't be surprised. They charge admission now as well.
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10-04-2012, 11:55 AM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
to view live streaming cost $25 - $150. what a rip off. I can get more substance from a free episcopal sermon. how lame. no way I'm paying. you would think they actually had something important to say.
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I'm sure it is very disappointing, for many, to have to PAY in order to criticize everything said and done - bummer!! We want to do that for FREE!!!
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10-04-2012, 05:03 PM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm sure it is very disappointing, for many, to have to PAY in order to criticize everything said and done - bummer!! We want to do that for FREE!!!
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you are getting me confused with DA. we're both puerto rican but i actually like stoneking, dkb, jerry jones and jeff arnold. don't confuse politics with anti upc, though i do believe in social gospel and respect for other religions, i'm still a three step anti-standard progressive.
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10-04-2012, 05:08 PM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
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you are getting me confused with DA. we're both puerto rican but i actually like stoneking, dkb, jerry jones and jeff arnold. don't confuse politics with anti upc, though i do believe in social gospel and respect for other religions, i'm still a three step anti-standard progressive.
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I was really bouncing off of your post, but thanks for the clarification.
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10-04-2012, 05:55 PM
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
75$ is a lot of money to watch a few services if even that.
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10-04-2012, 05:55 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: UPCI GC - Live Streaming
If they charged less Im sure more would watch
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-04-2012, 06:08 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
If they charged less Im sure more would watch
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Maybe $20
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