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View Poll Results: In favor of a Resolution??
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05-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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The AOF are quit clear to me, I see no need for an amendment.
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05-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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The more I ponder this whole scenario over the AS & the AOF and TV etc. it becomes more clear to me that the UC's are indeed, a dwindling bunch and will have extreme difficulty wresting control of the org away from the moderates or even the libs. If they want a "tighter" org, I think they will have to split off.
It appears to me that there are many moderates and even some libs who are tired of being in an org with negative growth in the US. I received a call from a UPC pastor this morning who stated this very thing. He could not discuss his thoughts with anyone IN the org for fear of being ostracized. This is NOT a fearful man, but one who only knows too well what happens when one questions the status quo.
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05-27-2007, 08:50 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
The more I ponder this whole scenario over the AS & the AOF and TV etc. it becomes more clear to me that the UC's are indeed, a dwindling bunch and will have extreme difficulty wresting control of the org away from the moderates or even the libs. If they want a "tighter" org, I think they will have to split off.
It appears to me that there are many moderates and even some libs who are tired of being in an org with negative growth in the US. I received a call from a UPC pastor this morning who stated this very thing. He could not discuss his thoughts with anyone IN the org for fear of being ostracized. This is NOT a fearful man, but one who only knows too well what happens when one questions the status quo.
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MOW, I agree, these have been my thoughts for some time.
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10-09-2007, 08:43 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Does anyone know if this passed?
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10-09-2007, 08:48 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
The more I ponder this whole scenario over the AS & the AOF and TV etc. it becomes more clear to me that the UC's are indeed, a dwindling bunch and will have extreme difficulty wresting control of the org away from the moderates or even the libs. If they want a "tighter" org, I think they will have to split off.
It appears to me that there are many moderates and even some libs who are tired of being in an org with negative growth in the US. I received a call from a UPC pastor this morning who stated this very thing. He could not discuss his thoughts with anyone IN the org for fear of being ostracized. This is NOT a fearful man, but one who only knows too well what happens when one questions the status quo.
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Behold it came to pass...
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10-09-2007, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by H2H
Does anyone know if this passed?
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A "Resolution 1" did pass at GC 2007. I'm not certain that it was the one mentioned at the start of this thread back in May. "All 'christians' are damned..."? C'mon.
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10-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by pelathais
A "Resolution 1" did pass at GC 2007. I'm not certain that it was the one mentioned at the start of this thread back in May. "All 'christians' are damned..."? C'mon. |
The initial post of this thread was TIC as was the query of it's passage.
BUT 2 posters would vote for it given opportunity.
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10-09-2007, 10:58 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The big deal ... it would eliminate any PAJCer/Water/Spirit minister that believes in light doctrine or refuses to proclaim "wholeheartedly", without of doubt, who God will save or not ....
It's asking them to:
1: condemn "christians" who don't believe exactly as they do.... UNPRECEDENTED
2: to accept the Bernardian 3 step justification model; which Seagraves does not accept ... he believes justification takes place at repentance and remission at baptism ... while Epleyians believe both justification and remission happen at water baptism.
3. play God ....
This is HERESY ...
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Here Dan pointed out exactly the reasons I started this thread. I believe most in the UPC DO hold to a PCI view or a "light doctrine" view and could not sign a straight forward clarification of their postion concerning other Christains.
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10-09-2007, 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by H2H
Here Dan pointed out exactly reasons I started this thread. I believe most in the UPC DO hold to a PCI view or a "light doctrine" view and could not sign a straight forward clarification of their postion concerning other Christains.
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I agree with you, I think most do. And personally, I would be ashamed to be a part of any group that would even consider anything with wording as was stated at the start.
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10-09-2007, 11:05 PM
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HART2HART
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by pelathais
I agree with you, I think most do. And personally, I would be ashamed to be a part of any group that would even consider anything with wording as was stated at the start.
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True - I was hoping the absurdity would come through... 
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