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Old 08-07-2012, 06:49 PM
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I'm speaking only based on what I know of history and what I've been reading. Anything could happen.

McCain was ahead in the polls when Bear Stearns collapsed and began the slide that became the great recession 6 weeks out from election day. The polls flipped and Obama made it all the way to victory. It wasn't Palin that killed McCain's campaign, it wasn't even McCain, it was the economy and it tanked on Bush's watch, and the GOP got the blame. Fear drove people to the polls to vote for Obama. He was eloquent, he was telegenic, he had a disarming style. People were looking for leadership and he overshadowed McCain and he was not a Republican. Unfortunately he appeared to be a great leader to those who judge leadership by style and not substance. For anyone who took the time to look at his campaign and his policies and speeches, the result of the last four years was pretty predictable.

Thanks. You are excellent in defining these things. Please keep reminding us!

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Old 08-07-2012, 06:56 PM
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Deacon, you have been so right on so many things that you have posted on AFF. I pray that you are right on this post. And I really believe again that you've got it right.

One thing that I honestly do not understand is how an Apostolic, or as far as that is concerned, any Christian, could stand up for, uphold, promote and "vote for" an individual such as Obama. The long, long list of "wrong and evil" and "unethical" things that have been recorded and proven in most cases about Obama are overwhelming. Romney has 3 or 4 areas that he could be questioned about and he is criticized and put down like he had a long list of "wrong and evil" things to answer for.

The biased stands are amazing. There are those who put Romney down because he won't release his income tax for more than two years. They say, "He must be hiding something!" And yet Obama will not reveal anything about his past, ..... school records, college records, medical records, birth certificate, and the list goes on. But none of the Romney criticizers will even start to accuse Obama of hiding anything. If they were being honest they would have to say the same thing about Obama,... "Obama must be hiding something!"

Oh well, politics is a strange bedfellow. It seems that with some you don't have to apply Christian ethics in any way when it comes to politics. I'm not looking for either one to be perfect, but I sure would like to vote on the "better of two evils," as some have said. And yes, you can stay home and not vote and tell yourself over and over again that you did not vote for either one, BUT OH YES YOU DID! Enough folks not showing up could very well elect the one with the LONG, LONG, LONG, list of lies and underhanded deeds.

You can deny all of Obama's short comings but that doesn't make them go away. If you made a list of each of the candidates negatives how would the list look?

Romney's Negatives Obama's Negatives


I don't know how to post this type of post that takes a poll. Would be interesting to see one on the subject of the candidates negatives.

Well I'm through. I've had my say and I'm sure each of you that want to respond will have yours as well. Again, Deacon thanks for all of your intense, intelligent and well stated posts. I'm counting on you being right.

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Old 08-08-2012, 06:17 AM
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McCain was also successfully painted as weak when he made the decision to stop campaigning and go back to DC and try to work through the mess after the collapse. Personally, i thought that was a good thing. He showed that he felt doing the job he was elected to was more important than campaigning. The media and Obama camp however painted him as weak and they blasted him in a 24/7 news cycle over it.

Obama didn't care that the economy took such a hit and the collapse was so severe. All he cared/cares about is power and manipulation so he can win. He saw an opportunity to demonize a good man, and McCain is a good man even though I disagree with him on a multitude of political points.
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
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Four years of McCain would've been a far cry better than these past four years...
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:12 PM
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No president since the Great Depression has been reelected with 8+% unemployment, less than 2% economic growth and polling at less than 50% with just 3 months to go before Election Day. With 90 days to go, undecided voters will go against the incumbent at about a 75% rate. Wisconsin, a liberal bastion, couldn't recall Scott Walker. Even with millions of union dollars poured into the recall effort, they lost. Tea Party candidates are winning in the primaries against veteran establishment GOPers. San Diego and San Jose, CA voters rejected extending costly pension benefits to government employees. People are sick of overspending government officials, they are sick of Big Government, they are sick of liberal social and economic poicies.

Chik-Fil-A Appreciation Day is a harbinger of things to come. Rahm Emmanuel, the mayors of Boston and Washington DC, all three liberal Democrat politicians ate crow as millions Americans voted with their feet and their wallets to take a stand against the liberal social agenda and the liberal penchant for non tolerance of other opinions they find disagreeable.

All of these forecast a scary scenario for the Democrats in November. It's not going to be close. It will be a Jimmy Carter shellacking all over again.
I pray that you are correct but I think historical models cannot be relied on in times of great change and we are in that mode now in this country.

We have a generation of young adults who a large percentage of have no clue about history, government, free enterprise, or capitalism. A generation of having extremely liberal institutions of learning and higher learning feeding young heads full of left wing mush has taken root in society.

Americans are no longer taught that this is the land of opportunity but that you have to compete for success and that the level of your success depends largely upon yourself.

Instead we teach that competition is a bad thing as well as free enterprise and capitalism. Democrats specialize in class warfare and pulling the race card at the drop of a hat and the mass media are willing co-conspirators in this strategy.

I am amazed, for example, at how Republicans are characterized in the media as being "anti immigration" when nobody is more for immigration than Republicans. The catch is that we are for LEGAL immigration. Somehow that word does not make it in the news reports of our position. This willful distortion of the facts by the media has paid off for Democrats / liberals in an increasing percentage of support from the rapidly growing Latino population.

Kind of ironic when you consider that Republicans have put Hispanics in position of power a lot sooner and more frequently than Democrats. For example this year for the very first time the Democrat convention will feature a Hispanic speaker. The Republicans did that more than a decade ago with the Hispanic woman that was the United States Treasurer under a Republican President.

The scariest thing of all is that our Presidential elections are really decided by the so callled "indpendents" who make up about 30% of the vote. Most of these people are clueless when it comes to politics, economics, etc so just vote whichever way the wind is blowing or whichever candidate tickles their fancy. These are the folks that Obama can still get to vote for him through his charisma and speaking ability (assuming he has a teleprompter)
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Massachusetts has mailed out voter registration letters to nearly 500,000 welfare recipients, in a push sparked by a group led by former ACORN bigwigs that critics say is a naked bid to boost Democrats at the polls in November. This group behind the taxpayer-funded push it was also discovered is chaired by democratic senate candidate Elizabeth Warren’s daughter. JUST ONE MORE REASON WHY THE DEMS HAVE TO GO INC.BARK AND THE GOV.OF THIS STATE ANOTHRER BARCK WORSHIPPER, DEVAL PATRICK, ALSO UNVETTED LIKE BARCK,!!!!! THIS IS WHAT BARCK WANTS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL HAVING ALREADY OVERULED WELFARE RECPIENTS WORKING FOR THEIR BENNIES !!!
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:54 PM
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His base is not excited about him anymore. Young people voted in 2008 uncharacteristically so b/c the first black president was a motivator. They will not turn out for him. Many young people are unemployed at a much higher rate than the national average. African Americans are less enthusiastic. He cannot afford to lose any percentage of their vote. He may still enjoy overwhelming percentages of AA voters but even if he loses 3-4 percent, he could be in trouble. The gay marriage issue hurt him there. His dependence on independent voters to get elected in 2008 is just as great and he's losing them by comparison. The historic turnover in 2010 was a harbinger of things to come. It's gonna be a shellacking.
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His base is not excited about him anymore. Young people voted in 2008 uncharacteristically so b/c the first black president was a motivator. They will not turn out for him. Many young people are unemployed at a much higher rate than the national average. African Americans are less enthusiastic. He cannot afford to lose any percentage of their vote. He may still enjoy overwhelming percentages of AA voters but even if he loses 3-4 percent, he could be in trouble. The gay marriage issue hurt him there. His dependence on independent voters to get elected in 2008 is just as great and he's losing them by comparison. The historic turnover in 2010 was a harbinger of things to come. It's gonna be a shellacking.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:22 AM
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Massachusetts has mailed out voter registration letters to nearly 500,000 welfare recipients, in a push sparked by a group led by former ACORN bigwigs that critics say is a naked bid to boost Democrats at the polls in November. This group behind the taxpayer-funded push it was also discovered is chaired by democratic senate candidate Elizabeth Warren’s daughter. JUST ONE MORE REASON WHY THE DEMS HAVE TO GO INC.BARK AND THE GOV.OF THIS STATE ANOTHRER BARCK WORSHIPPER, DEVAL PATRICK, ALSO UNVETTED LIKE BARCK,!!!!! THIS IS WHAT BARCK WANTS ON A NATIONAL LEVEL HAVING ALREADY OVERULED WELFARE RECPIENTS WORKING FOR THEIR BENNIES !!!
Who is this "Barck" guy you keep talking about? I am personally worried about this Barack Obama guy in the White House. Don't care so much about what this barck guy does.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 08-09-2012, 02:11 AM
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Barack Obama will be re-elected because most people see through Mitt Romney's many lies and deceptions. Romney doesn't care about middle class America and certainly doesn't care about women. He's running as a puppet for the wealthy 1%.

I doubt anyone can quote anything Romney has stated would be a policy that would benefit anyone who makes less than a million dollars annually.
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