Drug Decriminalization

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I am really not sure what to say to this... although it's easy to say that someone who really wants to make it will and make it sound like fact it is a fallacy.

60 minutes did a show several years back. In it they filmed two college friends who were from nearly identical backgrounds and had similar educations. Both were attractive, the same age, height/weight proportionate, etc. Both were intelligent and articulate. Difference: one black, one white.

They secretly filmed themselves applying for jobs, trying to find housing and shopping. Time after time the black man was told that an apartment was already rented, a position already filled etc. and the white fellow following behind him was offered shelter and employment. More than once the white fellow was offered help when shopping and the black man was ignored or worse yet followed around as if he were going to steal something.

As a person who always believed that 'anyone who wants to can make it' I was horrified... and still am. I am not sure what you consider 'wanting to make it' but I believe that most people, not able to house themselves or feed their families would be inclined to consider crime as an alternative. And many people who have 'made it' have not always been angelic... they just were not caught.

Very grey...

I did say "I don't know of one" as in my experience. Didn't mean there are no issues. I know about housing discrimination myself, because we are a interacial couple were denied housing. My point is that even with issues every minority I know with character and drive has done well. Many people real issues are lifestyle choices and stronholds of the mind.

I wonder for those who say prison is racism believe we should let a robber off the hook if they are minority? Many use race as cop out for behavoir when many times its there lifestyle that is the main problem.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So those for legalization think about the people who are now going around trying to eat other people. Multiply that by many thousands of times. Also Marijuana is not as harmless as some people think. I smoked hundreds of times as a hippie and yes it can certainly be addictive and cause mental damage and is a gateway drug if nothing else. Society would be better off without it.

Well... I guess that explains a lot of our questions about you Michael.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Why is it that Doritos always seems to be the food of choice when a pothead gets the munchies?

ROFL. Doritos rock. So do frosted mini-wheats right out of the box.... and glazed doughnuts... oh and Pringles. lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I am really not sure what to say to this... although it's easy to say that someone who really wants to make it will and make it sound like fact it is a fallacy.

60 minutes did a show several years back. In it they filmed two college friends who were from nearly identical backgrounds and had similar educations. Both were attractive, the same age, height/weight proportionate, etc. Both were intelligent and articulate. Difference: one black, one white.

They secretly filmed themselves applying for jobs, trying to find housing and shopping. Time after time the black man was told that an apartment was already rented, a position already filled etc. and the white fellow following behind him was offered shelter and employment. More than once the white fellow was offered help when shopping and the black man was ignored or worse yet followed around as if he were going to steal something.

As a person who always believed that 'anyone who wants to can make it' I was horrified... and still am. I am not sure what you consider 'wanting to make it' but I believe that most people, not able to house themselves or feed their families would be inclined to consider crime as an alternative. And many people who have 'made it' have not always been angelic... they just were not caught.

Very grey...

I think I saw that 60 minutes. It was eye opening.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I was also a drinker for some years and I actually agree with your analysis between pot and alcohol. Nonetheless speaking for the education of those who may not know Marijuana can be very dangerous. Not always but you never know what you are getting hold of till you do it.

True. But isn't that because it's not legal and people have to buy it from mysterious characters?

I stopped one day to buy a lid off a guy on the way to work. It was Jamacian and I thought I will just take a few hits to test it out. Within just a few minutes it felt like I was tripping. Then I had to drive to work and face several hours of the worse time I ever had on the job. I was so glad when I came down. Due to my altered perception I could have been killed or killed someone else there.

Because I know the potential of how hard a Marijuana stone can be I certainly dont see it as just a small thing.

My girlfriend spent some time in Amsterdam. They have restaurants with bongs and hookahs on the tables were people smoke it freely. You can also buy a pack of it like cigaretts. I asked her if she smoked while there. She giggled and said, "What do you think?" LOL She never ran into buying something that was laced.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

possesion of small amounts of drugs have been decriminalized in colombia and perhaps portugal. i personally think this is good and latin america is headed in that direction. america is making too much money in the prison industry. i think the war on drugs is racist and misguided. anyone planning a trip to colombia? i've started my internet research. thoughts?

won't get any support from me... I wish Alcohol was illegal.....

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

won't get any support from me... I wish Alcohol was illegal.....

We tried that before... it was a disaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We tried that before... it was a disaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg

Aquila - Prohibition was a response to problems in society.
I would not call it a total disaster, as it did curb the rampant alcoholism that was loose, at the time.
However, it did create some other issues...

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Aquila - Prohibition was a response to problems in society.
I would not call it a total disaster, as it did curb the rampant alcoholism that was loose, at the time.
However, it did create some other issues...

Bro... alcoholism skyrocketted. What are you talking about? lol

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The war on drugs is a terribly expensive failure. We need to rethink our approach.

I agree.