Can't do ol Bill any harm. Remember he threw himself off a cliff on groundhog day and still woke up the next morning?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
The love and acceptance we yearn for can only be found in Jesus. He doesn’t need us, but He loves and accepts us anyway. His love is perfect. And it’s unconditional. He’ll love you even if you won’t love Him back.
I dont find this to be true. Where did the idea Gods love is UNCONDITIONAL come from? I see definite conditions if we want to have favor with God.
Does this sound unconditional?
15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. John 15:10
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I dont find this to be true. Where did the idea Gods love is UNCONDITIONAL come from? I see definite conditions if we want to have favor with God.
Does this sound unconditional?
15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. John 15:10
Exactly. E.g., if you don't hate your family (OK, fine! If you don't love God more than you love your family!), you are not "worthy" of Jesus. So Jesus said.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Exactly. E.g., if you don't hate your family (OK, fine! If you don't love God more than you love your family!), you are not "worthy" of Jesus. So Jesus said.
learning to shoot a gun is not a sport... and that's something everyone should learn to do. And when I say "our young ladies need to learn", I would also say "our young men need to learn" some things as well. The children are entrusted to us as adults, and we have a responsibility to teach them and bring them up to be what God expects of them. Again, your getting this thread off topic... and that's sort of disrespectful to the original poster and the time they took to place the original post.
I dont find this to be true. Where did the idea Gods love is UNCONDITIONAL come from? I see definite conditions if we want to have favor with God.
Does this sound unconditional?
15:10 If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and remain in his love. John 15:10
And what were Christ's commandments? Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, love your neighbor as yourself and a new commandment: love one another.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
I'm sorry... I'm a simple guy... but so much of what you are talking about here is lauding someone's flesh, and making their flesh feel good... even the little girl playing soccer (and don't get me started bout litle girls being allowed to play sports). Just seems like your endorsing heaping huge praise on people's flesh to make the feel better... I don't see you making a differentiation between their soul and their flesh. Just seems a little out of balance to me... maybe I read it wrong... would be a first time.
Well, since you're so simple, it shouldn't be difficult to understand that we desire love and acceptance. That's common to every human in every culture in every era of history. Jesus likened our relationship to God, our heavenly Father, to our relationship with our earthly father in Luke 11. He said if we know how to be good to our children, how much more will our heavenly Father give good gifts to those who ask of Him?
First, the article isn't about heaping praise on people. Second, if it was, I don't see the problem. I think compliments, praise, kind words, celebrating someone's achievements are all perfectly fine and actually a very effective way to encourage someone and allow them sense that they have value, they are loved and they are appreciated. But the article is about how deep down we just want to be loved and we can never find pure, unadulterated love anywhere in anyone outside of Jesus.
And Jesus loves all of us, including our flesh. And He redeemed us, including our flesh. And I believe He cares about our insecurities and shame, our loneliness and need to be accepted. He's a good Father who cares about His children. And that's what makes His grace so beautiful. He adopted us, and He didn't have to. He chose us, and we had nothing to do with it.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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