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04-04-2012, 10:55 PM
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
IF it goes to a brokered convention, i expect to see at least one new heavy hitter appear out of nowhere. Bobby Jindal and/or others.
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04-05-2012, 08:32 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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'Cause you know you want to read this stuff! Another that was sent to me.
"With all legitimate polls averaged Mitt Romney has now broken his all-time high as far as what percentage of the GOP likely voters want him for President: 37% -- and this is most likely the same percentage who will vote for him in the General. At this point in the 2008 race, McCain was over 50% and HE couldn't beat Obama. This is astonishing to me, that Romney's actually got nearly 4 out of 10 Republicans convinced he's the right guy. I estimate that 6 out of 10 GOP likely voters will become "likely sitters home." Here we go, 2008 all over again....(sigh). Looking forward to 2016 when we can try once again to put a true Conservative in the White House."
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Shows the stupidity of Conservatives, if this is true!!!
Romney needs the others to withdraw and throw their support behind him, Romney is ready to go head to head with BO!! And he will win, can you imagine Conservatives who will vote for Obama over Mitt, by staying home. Give me a break, that is the height of stupid.
Neither Newt nor Rick, is strong enough for OB. And no magic bullet of a person is going to emerge at the convention, Mitt is it, now let's get OB out of office before he "fundamentally changes America". What a neophyte!!!
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04-05-2012, 08:34 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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The brokered convention and the "chaos" produced will actually motivate more conservatives to become involved in the process-- especially when we see Romney booted and a true conservative carries our banner!
I want the brokered convention!
I'm sour on santoeria, but Newt is someone I could vote for-- if Newt pick santo for his VP, I would hold my nose and support my party. I'd rather see a Newt-Christie ticket! That would more than motivate the base, attract the swing voterrs and Independents!
Those calling for a Newt-Rubio ticket would simply be using Rubio as race bait and I hope our party stays away from that trash because it NEVER works as planned. I thought the GOP was above that, but this primary season has proven me wrong in that respect.
Under no circumstances will I vote for a ticket with Romney on it. I will work and campaign hard for Obama to win in Florida and my efforts (along with others) would be most effective where I live-- along the I-4 corridor.
What you guys don't understand is that I am not the only one that KNOWS Romney is not a conservative!
We don't want him!
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Newt is dead in this campagin, get over it, Romney is conservative, Obama is a radical leftist!
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04-05-2012, 08:37 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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More reality and the Democrats are rubbing their hands and watching this.
Mitt has won a majority of the vote in just 4 states out of 31 so far: MA, ID, NV and VA, where Rick & Newt were not on ballot.
And this from American Spectator:
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In what universe has the AS speculation ever happened??? Forget it, Mitt is our best hope, we should elect him a landslide. Then continue to push for conservative policies. This country is split 50/50, the voting proves it, the hope for a far right candidate is a pipe dream.
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04-05-2012, 08:50 AM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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Republican Party of Texas Passes Resolutions Warning Romney, Supporting Tom Delay and Approving Abortion Laws
There were five resolutions passed at this meeting. The most pressing and striking resolution that passed was a resolution warning Mitt Romney to go to the Texas Presidential Debate that the Republican Party of Texas is putting together before the Texas Primary on May 29th, 2012. Gingrich, Santorum and Paul have accepted the invitation to this nationally televised Texas Presidential Debate. Romney has not accepted.
We basically told Romney that if he does not go to the debate, then we will take it to mean that he does not care about our large Republican state; and therefore, he should not get any of our delegates.
That is a strong warning from the largest Republican State Party in America!
The exact wording of the resolution does not say the word "warning", but in my opinion, as one of the people who was there and voted on this resolution, the intent and tone of the resolution was to tell Romney that he had better not ignore us and had better come to our debate or else!
Texas has 155 delegates, and if we give our delegates to another candidate, then that might be plenty enough to keep Romney from securing the nomination and force a brokered convention.
http://www.texasgopvote.com/mitt-rom...elay-an-004025
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The author of the article at your link strong declares that he will support the nominee, how about you?
The next round of primaries is going to be telling, if Rick does not win big in PA, that should tell you something. If Rick wins big in PA and Mitt wins all the rest, Mitt wins 3/4 of the delegates in that round. Rick must win 80% of all remaining primaries to get the nomination, the math is not in his favor.
If Texas wants to have more influence in the nominations, we must have our primary earlier.
I love Rick and Newt, however in our current national environment I am a realist.
I have a much better view of Mitt, I believe his business experience and his conservative Mormon roots will serve the USA very well at this time. Sanity is what we need, the insanity in DC is out of control.
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04-05-2012, 11:42 AM
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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The author of the article at your link strong declares that he will support the nominee, how about you?
The next round of primaries is going to be telling, if Rick does not win big in PA, that should tell you something. If Rick wins big in PA and Mitt wins all the rest, Mitt wins 3/4 of the delegates in that round. Rick must win 80% of all remaining primaries to get the nomination, the math is not in his favor.
If Texas wants to have more influence in the nominations, we must have our primary earlier.
I love Rick and Newt, however in our current national environment I am a realist.
I have a much better view of Mitt, I believe his business experience and his conservative Mormon roots will serve the USA very well at this time. Sanity is what we need, the insanity in DC is out of control.
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I'll vote the nominee, but I'm very unhappy with the way the GOP has strong armed this election and given us a pre-selected candidate.
The people that are connected with Rubio are the ones that pushed the Florida primary forward and got out the vote for Romney. Florida's actions, in fact, caused Iowa, New Hamshire, South Carolina and Utah to move their primaries to January. So the party wants that candidate chosen because states that raced to have their primaries first get to chose for the rest of the country. Why do we even have the primary system at all? Let’s allow those who are already elected endorse the candidate of their choice and we can save time and gas by not having to show up at the polls. Goodness, it is so nice to be relevant when we’re footing the bill for all their policies. It is not making me feel good to have to vote for the pre-selected GOP candidate just to get rid of Obama. I just don’t get the sense that the GOP understands the gravity of the country’s current situation.
I might even be willing to, I said might, give Romney a pass on the 10th Amendment grounds for his healthcare bill, except that he said we could use the Massachusetts bill for a national model. That only tells me that in his flip-flopping, etch a sketch manner, that he is actualy fine with the healthcare bill at the national level.
Does it bother you at all that Romney's electability numbers are so low going into a General Election? 60% of the voters still don't want him.
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04-05-2012, 11:52 AM
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
For the narrative - A video of Newt explaining why he is staying in the race and what will happen at the convention. His voice is a little worse for wear.
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04-05-2012, 02:56 PM
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
Romney is not wanted.
I promise I will campaign AGAINST any ticket with Romney on it. Newt isn't far-right.
You know, since when is it a virtue to blindly support a party or their nominee?
We criticize the Democrats dominance of the American black vote, but some would suggest that we do and become just like those in the other party that we criticize.
WHY?
Who says we have to accept Romney?
This Republican does not have to accept ANYONE-- I won't just vote for someone just because they are a Republican!
Conservatives preach principled voting and then want to toss it out the window when it is not convenient!
There is a large conservative voting bloc in America that hears the arguments for voting Republican and laughs at their lack of consistency!
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04-05-2012, 02:59 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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I'll vote the nominee, but I'm very unhappy with the way the GOP has strong armed this election and given us a pre-selected candidate.
The people that are connected with Rubio are the ones that pushed the Florida primary forward and got out the vote for Romney. Florida's actions, in fact, caused Iowa, New Hamshire, South Carolina and Utah to move their primaries to January. So the party wants that candidate chosen because states that raced to have their primaries first get to chose for the rest of the country. Why do we even have the primary system at all? Let’s allow those who are already elected endorse the candidate of their choice and we can save time and gas by not having to show up at the polls. Goodness, it is so nice to be relevant when we’re footing the bill for all their policies. It is not making me feel good to have to vote for the pre-selected GOP candidate just to get rid of Obama. I just don’t get the sense that the GOP understands the gravity of the country’s current situation.
I might even be willing to, I said might, give Romney a pass on the 10th Amendment grounds for his healthcare bill, except that he said we could use the Massachusetts bill for a national model. That only tells me that in his flip-flopping, etch a sketch manner, that he is actualy fine with the healthcare bill at the national level.
Does it bother you at all that Romney's electability numbers are so low going into a General Election? 60% of the voters still don't want him.
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Well, the numbers for the others choices are much lower. I personally believe Romney is the best choice of those running, even though as I have said Rick and Newt are not bad choices. There was even a time when I was supporting Rick Perry, unfortunately he was not ready to face the national exposure in a campaign. I believe Romney will prove to be much more conservative than many believe him to be.
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04-05-2012, 03:07 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Will Santorum and Gingrich Listen?
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Romney is not wanted.
I promise I will campaign AGAINST any ticket with Romney on it. Newt isn't far-right.
You know, since when is it a virtue to blindly support a party or their nominee?
We criticize the Democrats dominance of the American black vote, but some would suggest that we do and become just like those in the other party that we criticize.
WHY?
Who says we have to accept Romney?
This Republican does not have to accept ANYONE-- I won't just vote for someone just because they are a Republican!
Conservatives preach principled voting and then want to toss it out the window when it is not convenient!
There is a large conservative voting bloc in America that hears the arguments for voting Republican and laughs at their lack of consistency!
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But JD, these guys have been vetted through the primary, no one is forcing Romney on these states that are voting him into the lead.
I would have voted for Rick Perry, had Texas primary been earlier, however he was vetted out. I hate that, but the majority rule in this country. If there was a majority that believe one of the others was the best choice, that person would be leading. Rick Santorm is closer to my values, however, he is not the leader, and the math says he can't win now, so shouldn't we begin to get behind Mitt. You must believe BO is a better choice than Romney? That is really hard to believe.
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