Visited a non UPC church

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Sorry, I believe you - did not mean to say there is no one like that. Just that the churches that teach against members wearing wedding rings are few and far between - I certainly don't know any, though I do know a few ministers who do not wear them.

The pastor at our old church told my friend and horseback riding buddy that she would never get the holy ghost as long as she wore her ring.... and then she did, ring and all... I'm glad he didn't say it over the pulpit or it would have really been a mess... But he did tell the story about how he could not even raise his hand to pray with his own ring on and had to take it off before God would save him. She still wouldn't take hers off and eventually left the church over it. I used to take my wedding ring out at night and sleep in it... then back in the box in the morning... guess my rebellion started early on.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Sorry, I believe you - did not mean to say there is no one like that. Just that the churches that teach against members wearing wedding rings are few and far between - I certainly don't know any, though I do know a few ministers who do not wear them.

Hoovie, I'm sorry. I didn't make my point clear. I meant to say, Yes, it is true that many today don't believe wedding rings are an issue.

Wanted to clear that up.

But even in light of the fact that many don't perceive it as an issue any longer, my mother still will never put one back on. Because of the sacrifice she made many years ago, I guess.

But it was just my way of saying... how times change things! Forty years ago - skirts above the knees on all my OP female family members, and others too, as well as wedding rings, some bangs, and the list goes on... and now ... today those very things are hell-fire issues.

Wonder what the issues will be in another forty years? LOL!

Maybe facebook, twitter, and the internet will be the great mortal sins LOL!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

The pastor at our old church told my friend and horseback riding buddy that she would never get the holy ghost as long as she wore her ring.... and then she did, ring and all... I'm glad he didn't say it over the pulpit or it would have really been a mess... But he did tell the story about how he could not even raise his hand to pray with his own ring on and had to take it off before God would save him. She still wouldn't take hers off and eventually left the church over it. I used to take my wedding ring out at night and sleep in it... then back in the box in the morning... guess my rebellion started early on.

Suppose that is similar to the "crawl around the church" routine...

My view is that you can/will never be good enough for Jesus. Once you do recieve him He will change the heart from within.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

... guess my rebellion started early on.

LOL! You were doomed way back then...

But ... aren't you glad you've "seen the light!"

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Same one that had the "crawl around the church" routine I guess?

Yah, she's telling the truth... probably leaving out some great details too!

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Suppose that is similar to the "crawl around the church" routine...

My view is that you can/will never be good enough for Jesus. Once you do recieve him He will change the heart from within.

It was an itinerant preacher who had the seeker crawl all over... If he wanted the HG... the guy had been 'seeking' a long time... some speculated that this was to break his pride... he seemed a nice guy, not really prideful. Super sweet wife. I am not the only one who was freaked out... even the associate pastor told my husband that it 'wasn't right' which is really strong language from him.

I have left out some details because they are just not fit for polite company. The pastor of 'the weak church' where we have been most recently allows rings although he and his wife (and most of the church) do not wear them... He said recently that he'd rather have women wearing wedding rings than all the adultery that goes on in the 'big church'... and that is the part I'm not telling.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

It was an itinerant preacher who had the seeker crawl all over... If he wanted the HG... the guy had been 'seeking' a long time... some speculated that this was to break his pride... he seemed a nice guy, not really prideful. Super sweet wife. I am not the only one who was freaked out... even the associate pastor told my husband that it 'wasn't right' which is really strong language from him.

I have left out some details because they are just not fit for polite company. The pastor of 'the weak church' where we have been most recently allows rings although he and his wife (and most of the church) do not wear them... He said recently that he'd rather have women wearing wedding rings than all the adultery that goes on in the 'big church'... and that is the part I'm not telling.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

What a history lesson... You guys are so knowledgeable. I guess I just believed my pastor when he said that decent women had never cut their hair, wore makeup or jewelry... only the hussies. Actually he told a story that make up was originally introduced to polite society by drag queens who were trying to drag women into wickedness... Any truth to that?

What church is this? Sounds like a UC church. Im glad my church is not like that

[Jay]

I know of many ministers who do not approve of the wedding ring, or any other jewelry including the broach or lapel pin. They are just as plentiful as preachers who preach against splits, low necklines, high hemlines, and non-existant sleeves.

My father was raised with rings being excepted (it is one of those things that some do and some do not). I do know that I have seen pictures of Oneness Pentecostal ladies from the 20s-present that did not cut their hair, wear pants, shunned jewelry, etc. It is a simple fact that most had no problems with the holiness standard, dispite what some authors have wished to claim over the years.

I was raised in Pentecost, and my mother has a picture of my great-great-great grandmother with uncut hair, and wearing a long dress. She died in the 1960s. As far as I know, she never once cut her hair, wore make-up, jewelry, pants, or any of that other stuff people like to endorse today.

Oh, she was not UPCI either. She belonged to the AOG as I recall.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Jay

I know of many ministers who do not approve of the wedding ring, or any other jewelry including the broach or lapel pin. They are just as plentiful as preachers who preach against splits, low necklines, high hemlines, and non-existant sleeves.

My father was raised with rings being excepted (it is one of those things that some do and some do not). I do know that I have seen pictures of Oneness Pentecostal ladies from the 20s-present that did not cut their hair, wear pants, shunned jewelry, etc. It is a simple fact that most had no problems with the holiness standard, dispite what some authors have wished to claim over the years.

I was raised in Pentecost, and my mother has a picture of my great-great-great grandmother with uncut hair, and wearing a long dress. She died in the 1960s. As far as I know, she never once cut her hair, wore make-up, jewelry, pants, or any of that other stuff people like to endorse today.

Oh, she was not UPCI either. She belonged to the AOG as I recall.

before the 1900's it was a cultural standard for women to have long hair and wear dresses.