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Old 12-06-2011, 11:22 AM
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The guy didn't even try to make it look like the wires moved on their own! Watch his hands, man!
Try it at your house.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:43 AM
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Try it at your house.
I may, but it wouldn't be very conclusive. I already know where the pipes are buried, and unconscious factors could easily (very easily) come into play. I may swing (pun intended! ) the results either way.

My best hunch about all this is that unconscious factors often play into it, as well as confirmation bias. Same as prophecies and mind-reading and such.
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Old 12-06-2011, 11:46 AM
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I may, but it wouldn't be very conclusive. I already know where the pipes are buried, and unconscious factors could easily (very easily) come into play. I may swing (pun intended! ) the results either way.

My best hunch about all this is that unconscious factors often play into it, as well as confirmation bias. Same as prophecies and mind-reading and such.
Well there weren't many unconscious factors in play when I found pipes that I didn't know the location of and dug them up after dowsing their location.

There's just nothing that you could do to move yourself beyond your skepticism. That makes one as blind as those who believe blindly.

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Old 12-06-2011, 11:49 AM
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Well there weren't many unconscious factors in play when I found pipes that I didn't know the location of and dug them up after dowsing their location.
Funny thing about unconscious factors. You're not conscious of them!

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Not true! Indisputable proof will move me (but not of the type mentioned here: http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...73#post1118373).
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Re: Dowsing AKA Water Witching

BTW, I'm a bit more open to this than it may seem, from my posts. But that video was hilarious!
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BTW, I'm a bit more open to this than it may seem, from my posts. But that video was hilarious!
Well you see what you saw... I see what I saw. It clearly works and there is absolutely no need to use your hands to manipulate the rods. No reason at all. But yet... that is what you saw when you watched the video.


You'd have to move your hands to stop it from moving. It's not a case of it might... if you hold your mouth right. It will... and you'd have to hold it hard to stop it.
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Well you see what you saw... I see what I saw. It clearly works and there is absolutely no need to use your hands to manipulate the rods. No reason at all. But yet... that is what you saw when you watched the video.
I guess the rods' movement could have caused the contortions in his arms and hands.

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You'd have to move your hands to stop it from moving. It's not a case of it might... if you hold your mouth right. It will... and you'd have to hold it hard to stop it.
OK, how about if I rig up a mechanical rod holder, allowing them to spin freely? No influence from my hands at all. Should be indisputable.
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Re: Dowsing AKA Water Witching

im with D4T on this. Ive seen it done by oldtimers locating wells. Ive seen my dad do it looking for burried pipes and even a sewage tank. it works.

and I dont believe it is a spiritaul thing at all. I think there is a rationals scientific explination.
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There is a scientific explanation for this. I don't remember what it is, though.
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Underground minerals, magnetic field, and metals.... I think.
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