Has anyone seen that great whore in Revelation 17

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Ferd

dslijr akljre pine oihaopih lkvmadt aijreo?

Well in Revelation 18:6, a voice is heard saying "come out of her my people."
that you partake not of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. " This would indicate that there are people that belong to God that are there..And that she Mystery Babylon is the mother of Harlots would indicate that she has offspring..Now no one could actually see this until she started having children. And it's abundantly clear that she is having a whole bunch of them..
Now, speaking of them, it doesn't say any more about them other than that they are harlots too..

but it does say come out of her..{in s way it is prophesying what would happen to the church} but spoken in a way that only few could ever realize or understand..it is easy to see from the outside..but from within their minds or eyes are blinded..
It is amazing how intoxicating a religion can be..and how people will dismiss anything to maintain what they believe in ..

yet the historic picture paints a pretty clear picture..

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Reading this, I feel that river just likes to use the word "whore."

No, rather I want to undress her before the whole world..so that all may see her nakedness....

I believe it is the key to the whole world being informed of the knowledge of Christ..

Her fornications are well documented by her and governments and nations .

The greatest whoredom in history to me would be the Crusades..

God has such a great humor..that he would hide the truth in plain sight..

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

I was found in adultery's and whordoms myself....

I was married and committed adultery....just to see what it was like..
in the end it was excrusiateing for all involved....since I was in my own skin I would say for me the most, miserable.

It was twenty years ago and I still feel the pain.
the pain comes from disfunsionalism...

this qualifies me to condemn da ho

[Amanah]

oh dear

[Ferd]

You know what I think rivers?

I think, I think you like talking about prostitution.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Ferd

You know what I think rivers?

I think, I think you like talking about prostitution.

Surely he's not from Vegas.

[Michael The Disciple]

It does not remind me of the Church of Rome.

18:8 Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burned with fire; for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. 18:9 The kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her, will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, 18:10 standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgment has come in one hour.’ 18:11 [B]The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more; 18:12 merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; 18:13 and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. 18:14 The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you, and all things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. 18:15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning; 18:16 saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! 18:17 For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every shipmaster, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, 18:18 and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ 18:19 They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For in one hour is she made desolate. Rev. 18:8-18

It sounds more like America. The largest importing nation in the world. If it fell so would the world economy.

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It does not remind me of the Church of Rome.

18:8 Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burned with fire; for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. 18:9 The kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her, will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, 18:10 standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgment has come in one hour.’ 18:11 [B]The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more; 18:12 merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; 18:13 and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. 18:14 The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you, and all things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. 18:15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning; 18:16 saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! 18:17 For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every shipmaster, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, 18:18 and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ 18:19 They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For in one hour is she made desolate. Rev. 18:8-18

It sounds more like America. The largest importing nation in the world. If it fell so would the world economy.

and who would be her children?

Don't think I haven't thought of this before.. the United States does have many waters (people).. but does not make other nations...

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Jay

I think that I know who he is referring to, Ferd. Unless I am mistaken, he is of the persuasion that the RCC is the woman in Rev. 17. Islam could possibly be referred to as an offspring of Rome (more likely Orthodoxy, but not enough difference). Mohammed was influenced by 'Christians' who taught him the Trinity. He rejected it as pagan, and later attacked it with great violence.

Yeah and I only thought of Islam as her son in just the last couple days..
and I just threw that in for fun..The harlot has one bastard son..

and every denomination is her offspring; and they are called harlots because of the nature of Church is female..
I separated pentecostalism because it is not protestant but a renewal to that which was in the beginning..in fact a birth of it's own....but fornication with the kings of the earth is a papacy thing and began with Pope Leo which officially declared the church declared Roman Emperor..

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Ferd

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you mean you never heard of Mystery Babylon being the RCC ..it's the only entity in the earth that fits the mold...

things in there like Rev. 18:4 saying come out of her my people
her being female and mother of harlots...

of course it could not be seen nor understood at the time...
and to have them keep record of it all is just like God to use his enemies like that... to bring the record all the way to us..



I guess I have to make a verse by verse presentation of this...

fornication with the kings of he earth is seeking protection from them..
The Church gives them the facade moral authority to do whatever they will, if they do it in a legal manner..and justify it as a Christian thing. just like we today in America try to put a Christian image on our government officials..so that we can be like the kings or emperors of Rome..(The Holy Roman Empire.)
Today in the USA Christians are the Pope...and instead of looking up to the God or all power we are more and more looking unto mortal men to do what we want..,,mostly just for image sake.....What has happened in America is that we are missing the power that the pope had in the Holy Roman Empire..
We want to rule our own lives like the Pope rules the RCC..

I didn't expect to put this all in this thread ..but as I look at it, I see the comparisons ...