I dunno... if a song fills me with lust and wild passionate desire... I guess that's carnal?
Except at my age that really wouldn't be a bad thing and might save a visit to the pharmacist. Or, perhaps the song makes me want to eat a 2500 calorie meal after church ... would that be carnal?
What if the song made me feel like I was THE prophet of God for this hour and that everyone I came across in church needed to be scolded with my stern and anointed condemnations? Would that be carnal?
What if the song made me to maliciously suspect that the UPC's Foreign Missions division was a bloated plutocracy and that MY money was too holy to send into HQ? Is that a "carnal feeling?"
What if I just kept all of the money coming in - because the song made me feel that way - and when a neighbor pastor came by and saw no Partners In Missions plaques on my prayer room walls, the song then made me feel that I needed to tell some sort of story that made it look like I supported missions when I really didn't, so I just blamed the FM division for "taking too much" and I assured the visitor that, "Yes, I support the missionaries directly on my own..." but I really kept all of the money?
People that slam standards are now setting a "standard" in regards to what music is carnal and what music is spiritual? And you are doing that based on your "personal" preferences and/or "feelings"?
LOL! Thats funny!
As a youth pastor of 20+ years, I can tell you that you need to do some homework before you start passing judgement on "contemporary" christian music while you sit around enjoying your country, southern, blues, jazz, easy listening, easy rock and other so called "acceptable" styles of music.
Thanks for amusing me this morning...putting earbuds in my ears for Chris Tomlin, Toby Mac, Newsboys and more...
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"The only thing worse than murder in the desert is to know where the water is and not tell it!"
Why was Lucifer kicked out of heaven? and what is he doing here on earth? Could it be that he was turned loose to "deceive the nations" for a short time! Deception is when we think we are right, when we are wrong. When we are not able to discern between righteosness or unrighteousness.
Every time we make a choice regarding life, right or wrong choice. I believe we are being judged as we live. GOD has set HIS Throne in the heavens, and
he is setting high and lifted up. HE can see all that is going on here on earth as it turns on its axis.
The choice we make, right or left,, tell which side we are on. This is not for offense but to provoke thought. "How shall we then live". Right or unrighteous!
I am NOT the judge. Not my place! GOD IS THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. HE JUDGES RIGHTEOUSLY!
And we wonder why there are divisions, even in the church. Choices are what divide us. That is why we must look unto JESUS, the Author and the Finisher of our faith. Seek Him for the answers. HE IS THE WONDERFUL COUNSELLOR.
GOD didn't send JESUS to CONDEMN, but that in and through him, mankind could be saved. Christ IN you, the Hope of Glory, CONVICTS tenderly and lovingly.
People that slam standards are now setting a "standard" in regards to what music is carnal and what music is spiritual? And you are doing that based on your "personal" preferences and/or "feelings"?
LOL! Thats funny!
As a youth pastor of 20+ years, I can tell you that you need to do some homework before you start passing judgement on "contemporary" christian music while you sit around enjoying your country, southern, blues, jazz, easy listening, easy rock and other so called "acceptable" styles of music.
Thanks for amusing me this morning...putting earbuds in my ears for Chris Tomlin, Toby Mac, Newsboys and more...
How about Mandisa's "Stronger?" Forget the earbuds, just let me crank that one up on the stero...
I am not a fan of "Gospel Hip Hop" because I believe that hiphop is a culture and lifestyle bigger than just rap music. It was designed to be a way of living and thinking. Rap music is a genre embraced by those is the culture. The comparison I like to use is comparing the hip hop movement to the hippie movement.
That being said, I'm not really sure anymore that the art of rapping (talking to music) is inherently bad. I've actually heard Christian rappers who reject the hip hop culture and what it represents and deliver a message more forthright than many of the regular christian songs I hear.
For example here are some lyrics by an artist called Lecrae: (Some of you may have to get out your urban dictionary) LOL. Seriously just give it a chance.
Yeah, I got a question, after the show, after the set, after the music stops, what's next? Are we just writing songs or are we concerned with uniting people to follow the great commission of Christ.
Yeah let's get it, let's go...
Back in the day I was a lunch line rapper, after that I guess I was a punch line rapper, then I got saved and sometime after, ya boy came back as a frontline rapper, and when I say the frontlines, that's not a frontline, I'm out here preachin' Christ on the frontlines, and no it ain't about rockin' stages 'coz some of my engagements are out on the pavements yeah.
I'm out to take the bible, create disciples, who make disciples, disciple-cycles, that's why I want the beats to knock so after the music stops you can meet the Rock. I pray that you would know him well, this is like show and tell, it's more than a show, I'm showing you Emmanuel,
So yeah I'm hopin' that you're likin' the flow but it's only so you could know that God I'm writing it for. Let's go...
After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.
I recorded a couple songs some fast some slow, so the listeners would know the importance of the show, the importance of the show's not to excite these folks but make God's truth relevant, ignite these folks.
Discipleship is our call but we make disciples, this is not a suggestion, create disciples. The teachin' is a process, it's not over night and it's not a stage and a mic nah, it's life on life Christ -
Walked with twelve, ate with twelve, talked with twelve, shaped the twelve, invested in 'em well you could say that he made the twelve. Who made many more, who made plenty more, now it's on you and me if there's anymore.
1 teach, 2 teach, 3 teach, 4 teach, 5 teach, 6 teach, 7 teach more, this is what we've been commissioned, it's the reason why I write, so that you could hear the truth, not so you can say I'm tight whoa...
After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.
So, we write this for the right the speaker was righteous, and then we might check for a culture who likes the hypeness. Some say we keep it crunk, some say we hype man; we just wanna pump the resurrection of the Christ man.
We in the -burbs and the hoods that's hostile, we share a common view like synoptic Gospels and you know we keep a couple young dudes around us and teach 'em the same truth God used to ground us.
This is a lifestyle so, when the mic's down I pray people follow Christ when they turn the lights down. I pray that everybody playin' this song will be challenged by everything I had to say in this song.
I don't do this for the money, I don't do this for fame, I don't do this so the industry can know my name, I do this and host to glorify Yeshua the King, if you're feelin' me you know you should be doin' the same let's go...
After the show, after the set, after the music stops what's next?
Will there be fellowship, prayer, disciples, will you open your bibles after the music stops.
After it's over, after it ends, after the music stops, what then?
Will you understand that Christ is King? Or will you just like the words we sing after the music stops.
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