Open letter to AFF - Page 3

OldPathsII · #21 07-26-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am a little upset that OLD PATHS 11 seems to think or at least that is how I understand what he wrote that I am not truthful and someone needs to call me and all the things I get away with on this forum...

I request as a long time member of this forum...since the days of FaithChild if anyone at anytime ever caught me in a lie?

Over the years I have shared our ups and downs, victories and defeats, births and deaths and this forum and many of the members have become friends with me and missions.

We have posted thousands of pictures, our newsletters and shared our life her to help people understand that missionaries are real people...have real passions.

I have shared with you the needs of our people and the mission in general. Both spiritual and natural...told of days of laughter and tears...

Strange how people look at things...Just tonight we had supper with Pastor Robinson from Jayess, Mississippi and he looked over the headquarters church, the projects, and told us how growing up he was always inspired by our visits to his home. (His mother used to fix my hair when I would be in the area)

My life has been and continues to be an open book...

If anyone would like any details names, dates, places of any missionary stores I have ever related I will gladly furnish these things...

I am only human and sure I make millions of mistakes but my whole love is missions...

This is one of Old Paths 11 post..

it was actually a friend of mine actually emailed me a link to this thread. This friend is aware of several of my personal hobbyhorses, which include the ridiculous blaming of the devil for everything that goes wrong in our lives, the ridiculous use of credit cards, the tendency of Christians to rack up tons of debt and then give praise to God for what "He gave them", and last but certainly not least, the fact that Sister Alvear gets away with WAY too much on this forum. No one ever calls her on her stories and someone needs to.

I would like to give a personal invitation to anyone to come visit me, our churches anytime...Some on this forum know me personally and a few that write her or read here have been to Brazil...anyway everyone is invited...my home is open...

You, and the others that are now on your bandwagon, need to produce where I said anything about you lying. This ridiculous response is just idiocy. Settle down for crying out loud.

PastorDaniel · #22 07-26-2011, 02:15 PM

It's easy to be on the bandwagon of someone who has a great reputation. The only idiotic response was the huge deal you made out of someone using a credit card to buy a stove. I and millions others consider that a major necessary appliance. And most of us don't have enough cash laying around to go purchase a stove. I imagine this problem would be magnified in a foreign country. You only continue to make yourself look foolish. You should apologize and go on about your business.

Jacob's Ladder · #23 07-26-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII

You, and the others that are now on your bandwagon, need to produce where I said anything about you lying. This ridiculous response is just idiocy. Settle down for crying out loud.

Old Paths,

Aren't you a member on Conservative Apostolic Forum?

MissBrattified · #24 07-26-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII

You, and the others that are now on your bandwagon, need to produce where I said anything about you lying. This ridiculous response is just idiocy. Settle down for crying out loud.

It was an implication, not an outright statement. Perhaps you should have been asked for clarity before it was assumed. I'll give you that much.

So, OPII:

What did you mean by the comment that someone should "call" Sister A on her "stories?"

Praxeas · #25 07-26-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It was an implication, not an outright statement. Perhaps you should have been asked for clarity before it was assumed. I'll give you that much.

So, OPII:

What did you mean by the comment that someone should "call" Sister A on her "stories?"

Sounds like OP is implying dishonestly on her part

LadyRev · #26 07-26-2011, 02:53 PM

Bandwagon? How about circling wagons? Not that Sis Alvear needs human protection, as she certainly has more than enough heavenly protection, but nonetheless, obviously, you need to go crawl back under your rock!

Sam · #27 07-26-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

Sister Alvear,

I’m calling you out on one of your stories!

I don’t believe you jumped into the swamp, bare-handed wrestled and caught a 37 foot Anaconda all by yourself.

Well, as far as I am concerned, if Sis. Alvear said it, it must be true. Actually she didn't wrestle that 37 foot snake by herself. The Lord helped her.

Seriously, I would not doubt anything Sis. Alvear says.

This woman has dedicated her whole life to the Gospel. I may not agree with her on every detail of her beliefs (none of us agree 100 percent) but I am confident in her character and believe she is called by God and used by God.

OldPathsII · #28 07-26-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorDaniel

It's easy to be on the bandwagon of someone who has a great reputation. The only idiotic response was the huge deal you made out of someone using a credit card to buy a stove. I and millions others consider that a major necessary appliance. And most of us don't have enough cash laying around to go purchase a stove. I imagine this problem would be magnified in a foreign country. You only continue to make yourself look foolish. You should apologize and go on about your business.

No, YOU should read what I objected to, and it was NOT the use of a credit card. It was the claim that the devil was somehow defeated by the use of a credit card. THAT, Mr. Daniel, was the "Huge deal." Free advice: Sign up at a local community college for a reading comprehension class.

OldPathsII · #29 07-26-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It was an implication, not an outright statement. Perhaps you should have been asked for clarity before it was assumed. I'll give you that much.

So, OPII:

What did you mean by the comment that someone should "call" Sister A on her "stories?"

Yes, absolutely. But no one wants to ask, just accuse and judge. I've not spent a lot of time on this forum, but AFF seems to be highly populated with people that greatly enjoy piling on a person that DARES question something that one of the "Old Guard" says. In the little time I've spent here, I've been verbally beaten to death. I pretty much expect it every time I post.

I'm glad to hear you admit that I DID NOT say that Sister Alvear was lying. The others should have a tiny ounce of integrity, call off their judgement dogs, and admit the same.

What did I mean specifically? Pretty much exactly what Mr. Charnock has said. I know this normally gets hushed but here's the flat-out truth. There are a LOT of people that just roll their eyes when Sis. Alvear starts one of her stories of great attacks of demonic forces, how awful they have it on the "mission field" and then chastises us luxurious Americans for not giving more to missions. I'm one of the eye-rollers, only this time, I chose to say something.

Look, stoves break. Goodness, even here in America they break. Why is it that here in America, they go bad, but if it's Sis. Alvear's stove, all the demons of hell have attacked her stove? I think it's a legitimate question, and furthermore, if she then proceeds to say she's going to use a credit card and thereby gain some sort of victory over the devil, I think I should have the right to say, "Hey, wait a minute. Really??"

You all can verbally bash me all you want, call me ugly names, say that you're fighting mad, whatever else you want to say. I'm still going to roll my eyes.

And then, for crying out loud, SHE'S GOING TO CALL HER LAWYER OVER WHAT I POSTED??????? Somebody's just a liiiiiiiiiittle too defensive there and it actually DOES make me start to wonder about the truthfulness of some of the happenings claimed. Sorry, it does. I HAVE NOT ACCUSED HER OF LYING!!! But her reaction? Sorry, there isn't a reasonable person who looks at this objectively who wouldn't raise an eyebrow at her reaction.

I say, "Someone needs to call her on some of these stories" and SHE'S GOING TO CALL HER LAWYER???? Does anyone see a problem with that besides me??

Praxeas · #30 07-26-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPathsII

No, YOU should read what I objected to, and it was NOT the use of a credit card. It was the claim that the devil was somehow defeated by the use of a credit card. THAT, Mr. Daniel, was the "Huge deal." Free advice: Sign up at a local community college for a reading comprehension class.

I read this part pretty clearly, did you Daniel?

and last but certainly not least, the fact that Sister Alvear gets away with WAY too much on this forum. No one ever calls her on her stories and someone needs to.