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Old 07-15-2011, 11:06 PM
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Re: Fulness of the Godhead

As Jesus had the Spirit of God dwelling in Him, we have the same Spirit of God dwelling in us. Nothing is missing from the fullness in that sense.
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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Re: Fulness of the Godhead

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no but the word theos has been used to represent man and no Just God, something to consider
That's beside the point, and the context needs to be examined anyways
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:03 PM
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As Jesus had the Spirit of God dwelling in Him, we have the same Spirit of God dwelling in us. Nothing is missing from the fullness in that sense.
Im not Unitarian. Im Oneness. Jesus was not someone other than God in whom the Spirit dwelt in like in believers

Also that is not the message of Col 2:9
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:49 PM
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Im not Unitarian. Im Oneness. Jesus was not someone other than God in whom the Spirit dwelt in like in believers

Also that is not the message of Col 2:9
That's what I was pointing out. The Holy Spirit, being God, dwells fully in each believer who has received the Spirit. It's deity, the Godhead, theos, which is dwelling in us and also dwelled in Jesus.
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Maybe Im wrong on this but I dont recall "separate"vs "distinct" being a part of the Oneness/Trinity debate until the last few years. I remember all Trins saying they were separate persons.

I was debating with Limey Bob on Paltalk this year sometime and I showed him in a Dictionary that separate and distinct are interchangeable.

If they are "distinct" persons they are "separate" persons.

I would say right now there are thousands of Trinitarian web sites that use the words "separate persons".
MTD, I think you are correct. My recollection is that trinitarians sometimes use the term "seperate" regarding the three: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. However they also clearly also say that they believe these three seperate or distinct persons make up one monotheistic God.
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