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Old 07-12-2011, 03:49 PM
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I don't think he was assuming anything., Your post was incredibly vague and it's a little frustrating to judge what we say based on unrevealed facts
Actually I stated from the start that the person is saved. Sorry to not give the entire story all at once but as I also explained earlier, I was trying not to disclose the individuals any further by trying to only add the details that were vital to judging the outcome.
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Re: An abuse of authority????

I vote this the most confusing thread in months!
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A Pastor notices unholy activity happening on someones fb page. While the individual is NOT a memeber of their church, the person is WELL aquainted with many people that are connected to the Pastor and neighboring churches.

After a moment, the Pastor updates their status message and warns the saints NOT to behave in the manner they saw displayed on the individuals page. In turn, the individual goes off on a tangent, and says that the Pastor is abusing his authority and not being Christ like. They resort to cursing and even publically bashing the Pastor, His ministry, and those that support him so that everyone who is connected with the both of them can clearly see the post. The individual even uses the Pastors entire name and encourages everyone on their page to say whatever they would like about the "abuse" that took place.

Who's right? Did the Pastor abuse their authority? Scriptures would help.
Where here do you say this individual is saved?
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:51 PM
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Actually I stated from the start that the person is saved. .
No you didn't
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Another issue. There are people in this world who do not consider profanity as sinful as you and I would. Going to the club is not a sin in itself. It can certainly lead to sin and as a christian I don't want to be in a place like that because of the temptation. There has to be grace for issues that are not black and white until a person can walk in maturity.
True, however coming BACK to the Pastor's page as well as their own status with more profanity, "blasting" their name, the name of their ministry and all their congregation with other profanities...OPENLY calling attention to the matter is clearly (black and white) wrong.
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As stated earlier, the Christian IS in fact in fellowship with the churches this Pastor fellowships with. In fact they share MANY mutual friends both of which are other Pastors and other members. The Pastor spoke specifically about the issue, but not about the individual.
Then the individual needs to be admonished by his or her own pastor. It honestly looks like the pastor in question was overstepping.

There could be something going on in that persons life. Maybe they just screwed up which is something people do all the time.

There is not a lot of respect for this pastor and the other pastor either. I think there is an attitude in holiness groups that are always concerned about what the other church down the road is doing.

Do us a favor and post what the pastor said, post the pics and the status, and then we can judge for ourselves.
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Forgive my feeble thinking, but its hard to advise this situation without knowing what happened... (I know you are being considerate of the situation..)

From what I know--- I would say, in this day we are living.. Pastors must use wisdom before they get involved in peoples business...

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Jonah was told to get into Ninnevahs business. He agreed with you and wanted to avoid confrontation.

It does take wisdom. The seeking of wisdom for the careful choice of words when they go on writing and the wisdom when to not say anything.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:54 PM
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Re: An abuse of authority????

The first post opened with:
While the individual is NOT a memeber of their church, the person is WELL aquainted with many people that are connected to the Pastor and neighboring churches.

Please pardon the spelling error firstly, and secondly, I wrongly assumed that I was being clear that although the Pastor is NOT their Pastor, the Pastor IS well known by his leaders..etc.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:55 PM
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True, however coming BACK to the Pastor's page as well as their own status with more profanity, "blasting" their name, the name of their ministry and all their congregation with other profanities...OPENLY calling attention to the matter is clearly (black and white) wrong.
That I feel according to the bible is very wrong. Never attack the man of God even when he is not your shepherd.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:56 PM
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Then the individual needs to be admonished by his or her own pastor. It honestly looks like the pastor in question was overstepping.

There could be something going on in that persons life. Maybe they just screwed up which is something people do all the time.

There is not a lot of respect for this pastor and the other pastor either. I think there is an attitude in holiness groups that are always concerned about what the other church down the road is doing.

Do us a favor and post what the pastor said, post the pics and the status, and then we can judge for ourselves.
I hardly think that's necessary, but thanks anyway.
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