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07-01-2011, 11:45 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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can you givea brief description of christ's nature that is more clear than db?
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To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself.
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07-01-2011, 11:47 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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To have an elitist and sectarian mentality like most in the UPC do - that "we have something that nobody else has" is just deceptive.
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A LOT of trinitarians have the same attitude towards OPs and JWs and even Muslims
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Yeah, there's always a lot of that going around. Personally, I'm glad that I'm better than all of those kinds of people in that, I am humble. I'm too good to be an "elitist."
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07-02-2011, 01:05 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
To wit and Forsooth! Pelathius is more humble than us all, so he says
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-02-2011, 03:30 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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No. sorry...I have not heard of her...I will ask some of our young people.
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sis alvear, you can find eliane silva on youtube. I believe she sings prophetic music in portugese.
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07-02-2011, 08:34 AM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
been listening to her this morning...beautiful..I am going to see if our people know her..
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07-02-2011, 01:55 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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Im saying that natures neither pray nor receive prayer. The definition of Nature is "those qualities or attributes that make someone whatever kind of being they are"
Qualities don't pray.
A Person prayed and a Person received those prayers
The Son is that Person incarnate, Person and Divine nature hypostatically joined with a Human nature
The Father is that same Person transcendent Being God in person, nature and operation (We call them modes of being).
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so the way you are saying it, one person prayed to another person or are you saying one mode prayed to another mode? Or did Jesus pray to his own spirit?
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07-02-2011, 02:07 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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so the way you are saying it, one person prayed to another person or are you saying one mode prayed to another mode? Or did Jesus pray to his own spirit?
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What I said was One Person is both God transcendent (Father) and God incarnate (Son)
A Person prayed. A Person heard those prayers. Natures do not pray. Natures explain WHY a person might pray. Nature explains what KIND of Person might NEED to pray.
As God transcendent HE functioned as Deity only and as God incarnate He functioned exclusively through the Humanity only. So that as the Son He was fully human with a Human mind and will
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-02-2011, 02:08 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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so the way you are saying it, one person prayed to another person or are you saying one mode prayed to another mode? Or did Jesus pray to his own spirit?
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I guess the answer to all those questions would be "yes" depending on whom you asked.
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07-02-2011, 02:20 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
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What I said was One Person is both God transcendent (Father) and God incarnate (Son)
A Person prayed. A Person heard those prayers. Natures do not pray. Natures explain WHY a person might pray. Nature explains what KIND of Person might NEED to pray.
As God transcendent HE functioned as Deity only and as God incarnate He functioned exclusively through the Humanity only. So that as the Son He was fully human with a Human mind and will
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ok, that sounds pretty clear. let me ask you, what do you think is the difference between a believer with the holy ghost and god manifest in the person of jc. Do you think jc had the same limitations as belevers with the hg?
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07-02-2011, 02:23 PM
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Re: David Bernardīs book on oneness
prax, what historical christology do you most agree with? and who was its' major proponent?
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