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Rudy · #21 06-21-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Falla39

Faithut166,
This is just me, but I know HIM well enough that I take my needs directly to HIM.
I also don't go and ask the pastor to pray for everything I need because I know how
to ask myself. I don't need someone to do what I can do myself. I grew up in a family
of eleven children. I was the eldest daughter, having one older brother by 14 mos. I
learned early in life how to feed myself, do a lot of things for myself. There were nine
siblings younger than myself. Some of us had to learn to do some things for ourselves
early on. I helped do many things for my younger siblings. Didn't think a thing about it.

Many in the church today, do not know how to pray for themselves, help with the new
"babies", etc. They run to the pastor with ever little situation. Many pastors are worn
out from "feeding, teaching, babysitting, etc., older "babies" who parents didn't teach
them to look to God for anything. Just ask Pastor. I know people who wouldn't teach
their children, but would tell their kids, "You'll have to ask pastor whether you can do
or not do this. The pastors have their own families. God didn't call him to raise others
children. The "training up in the way they should go", is the parents responsibility!

Some pastors may love it so, but it should not be. We have a Bible and the Holy Ghost
to lead and guide us. Make room for the "new converts or babies." Many need to grow up
in Christ"!
There are those who ask me to pray for them for situations and I am happy to do so. Now
instead of telling them, "Yes, I'll be praying for you, I start praying right then. That way
they will learn how to pray themselves. Children learn by example and "big kids can too!
Never too late too learn. Hugs!

Falla39

Granola.Mama · #22 06-22-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by faithit166

but isnt that kinda like doing it yourself and taking it out of gods hands,she said she new she could ask several people then shed have her need met if that is the case then why ask god, im just trying to understand

What if y'all hadn't prayed about it, and she went on and asked? Could those friends and family had said no? Maybe the asking God was so they would say yes to helping her. God often times uses a vessel. Maybe these people are just His vessel to bring her blessing.

Praxeas · #23 06-22-2011, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by faithit166

but isnt that kinda like doing it yourself and taking it out of gods hands,she said she new she could ask several people then shed have her need met if that is the case then why ask god, im just trying to understand

Are you taking it out of God's hands by asking us?

CC1 · #24 06-22-2011, 11:31 AM

A couple of points;

1. God answers many prayers through actions of people he directs
2. God expects us to use common sense in meeting our basic needs to the best of our ability and then he will do whatever extra needs to be done.

I mention number two because I thought it was odd that when you and your son were lving with your parents and you knew you could tell them their grandson needed a coat and they would get it you thought it was better to pray for God to provide. Unless they were destitute and could not afford getting your son a coat I think you should have brought the need to their attention first. That is one of the things God gave us families for - support in times of trouble. Why should God have to get a stranger to drop off clothes if your family, who you were living with, have the means to provide it and would gladly do so? As I said God expects us to do the best we can to provide for ourselves and our families first before he steps in.

faithit166 · #25 06-25-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Are you taking it out of God's hands by asking us?

nope her need was met

faithit166 · #26 06-25-2011, 07:35 PM

so you feel i should have asked my parents to buy my son a coat? instead of asking god, does he not supply all or needs according to his riches and glory, the bible says he knows what we have need of before we ask but ask, when i asked him and he sent that person to my house noone got the glory but him, god could have easily spoken to my mother or my father, but chose to do it in away,told me that not only did he hear my prayer but he answered a coat may be a small thing to some, but he cares about the little things also, tho i am willing to work at any given time and do everything i can i do not believe gods children have to ask people for money, why should they when their father owns it all, and besides why ask god to make away if you take it out of his hands and do it yourself,where would he get glory in that jmo

Cindy · #27 06-25-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by faithit166

so you feel i should have asked my parents to buy my son a coat? instead of asking god, does he not supply all or needs according to his riches and glory, the bible says he knows what we have need of before we ask but ask, when i asked him and he sent that person to my house noone got the glory but him, god could have easily spoken to my mother or my father, but chose to do it in away,told me that not only did he hear my prayer but he answered a coat may be a small thing to some, but he cares about the little things also, tho i am willing to work at any given time and do everything i can i do not believe gods children have to ask people for money, why should they when their father owns it all, and besides why ask god to make away if you take it out of his hands and do it yourself,where would he get glory in that jmo

faith, I think you are making the right choices for you. We are to seek God first, how He supplies our needs is not as important than that He does.

Sandra79 · #28 06-25-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bishop Cleatus

Not really. Do you still take a very sick kid to the doctor even if you ask God to heal them? I hope so.

I agree with u bishop

mfblume · #29 06-26-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by faithit166

but isnt that kinda like doing it yourself and taking it out of gods hands,she said she new she could ask several people then shed have her need met if that is the case then why ask god, im just trying to understand

James informs us that people will at times ask us for help and we should comply. He would not say that if God did not allow for it.

James 2:14-16 KJV What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? (15) If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, (16) And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

If we were not supposed to help people out, as though God answers all these things and people should not come to us, then James would never have told us to help people since God would do it all instead.

Hoovie · #30 06-26-2011, 07:09 AM

Faithit,

If someone needs something they should get it the same way one acquires any asset. They plan what it is they need and prepare a budget to accommodate it. If it is an emergency like medical or basic needs, then by all means use the resources God has provided via Government programs, the Salvation Army, and friends and family.

Asking God for free cars etc., just sounds a bit weird to me.