Is It Wrong To Call Jesus Yeshua?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It is not Jesus in Greek. Jesus is the English transliteration of the Greek. So you feel that the name the Messiah was born with sanctioned by Gabriel the Angel is lost? So the Lord lost his own name? The one that is above every name? The only name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved?

Oh ok it just got lost.

Now it comes out! THIS is the issue at long last. THAT is why we NOW believe you are wrong. It DOES matter to you. Your whole concept of the proper pronunciation from a certain language is based upon insistence that the NAME be not lost, which is not the case whatsoever. It is yet another example of OUTWARD EMPHASIS -- something the flesh can relate to in terms of sound waves or ink on paper or pixels on screens.

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I disagree. His name was not lost. Yeshua was a common name back then. We've even discovered archeological evidence of the Aramaic Yeshua in use during that time.

Etymologically Jesus comes from the Latin Iesus. That comes from the Greek Iesous. That etymologically comes from the Aramaic Yeshua

Yeshua means Yahweh saves...so does Iesous

In the LXX, written before Jesus was born, the Greek Iesous was used for Yeshua (Joshua)

18 sn The Greek form of the name Iēsous, which was translated into Latin as Jesus, is the same as the Hebrew Yeshua (Joshua), which means “Yahweh saves” (Yahweh is typically rendered as “Lord” in the OT). It was a fairly common name among Jews in 1st century Palestine, as references to a number of people by this name in the LXX and Josephus indicate.

Biblical Studies Press. (2006; 2006). The NET Bible First Edition Notes (Mt 1:21). Biblical Studies Press.

I believe I stated that in the "other thread" that got this one started.
Yeshua was not the only variation of "Yahweh Saves". That was my only point. There is no 100% proof that it was Yeshua and not Yehoshua. But we are 100% sure that it was the Greek name Iēsous.

[houston]

I'll just go with "Joshua."

[Hoovie]

I have no problem with it at all UNLESS those who use it make it a test of fellowship etc.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I think I brought that up before. For some reason MTD does that. He will stop saying Jesus and start saying Yeshua. Im not sure why

Its so simple. Because I like using the English Jesus. And I like using the Hebrew/Aramaic Yeshua. I like it because it is the original. I have never said or even thought I dont like the name Jesus. I have said this many times.

Apparently the elitists who command that Yeshua NOT be used are elite over the English name.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I have no problem with it at all UNLESS those who use it make it a test of fellowship etc.

What if those like myself who have never insisted or even suggested anyone here to use Yeshua cant get through a thread without someone ridiculing the name? Does anyone have a problem with THAT?

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I have no problem with it at all UNLESS those who use it make it a test of fellowship etc.

I prefer to not use it for the reasons I have stated, and for those that are "re-baptizing".

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by houston

I'll just go with "Joshua."

You would probably be mocked to scorn.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by NorCal

I believe I stated that in the "other thread" that got this one started.
Yeshua was not the only variation of "Yahweh Saves". That was my only point. There is no 100% proof that it was Yeshua and not Yehoshua. But we are 100% sure that it was the Greek name Iēsous.

And we are 100 percent sure it was not Jesus. Yeshua or Yehoshua would be closer than the English Jesus if someone cared.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

You would probably be mocked to scorn.

the comment was tic... but I really don't care who mocks me. The movement is full of tradition and false doctrine... preachers, prophets, and pupils who can't discern the difference between a prophecy and a fortune cooke.