The poor in America

[onefaith2]

Dont tell the folks that protest giving to the poor in other countries. THey always say, "Why are we giving to other countries and not taking care of the needy people here first?"

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

How do you deal with the scripture in these cases.

"If none would work, neither should he eat".

"He that will not provide for his family, is worse than an infidel".

Aren't exact quotes, but I'm in a hurry!

Context helps in those verses. At least one of those verses you referenced was to a specific situation (1 Thes) where Paul's emphasis on the imminent return of Christ caused people to lose all control, quit their jobs, ignore their families, leave trash in the streets, etc... Paul corrects this in his second letter (2 Thes) with more of a "work like he's not coming for 1,000 years, live like he's coming today" speech.

The other verse you reference is from Paul's letter to Timothy, dealing with widows.

I have close to 100 other verses that deal with the taking care of the poor, including entire systems of OT government set-up to do just that -- and judgment when that did not happen.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

Dont tell the folks that protest giving to the poor in other countries. THey always say, "Why are we giving to other countries and not taking care of the needy people here first?"

Does it have to be either/or?

[onefaith2]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Does it have to be either/or?

To them apparently so. I guess until all the injustices here are solved, they believe we should let others be. Don't worry, I can't fathom it either. I guess its their beliefs and something caused their beliefs to be that way.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by onefaith2

To them apparently so. I guess until all the injustices here are solved, they believe we should let others be. Don't worry, I can't fathom it either. I guess its their beliefs and something caused their beliefs to be that way.

Yeah... it's the danger of bumper sticker logic.

Though, my opinion about committing US Govt and Military to Libya (for example) falls more into the line of "how" we should help, not if we should -- and who the "we" is

[coadie]

The libs apparently don't care about the poor but pretend to. We have twice as many on food stamps, assistance and unemployed as we did during Bush. Obama makes choices that feed his ego and hurt the poor.

Libs have a fancy way of ignoring facts that are inconvenient. With sky rocketing divorce rates and high rates of single adult bread winners in homes, we have instant access to poverty.
30 years ago when the majority of homes with children had 2 adult parents, if one loses a job, we didn't have instant poverty or foreclosure. Now some guys pay child support and miss their rent payments. The structure of the home shows how bad choices feed poverty.

[onefaith2]

Thank the Lord for food stamps and assistance

[Truthseeker]

Thank God when it's done away with.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by coadie

The libs apparently don't care about the poor but pretend to. We have twice as many on food stamps, assistance and unemployed as we did during Bush. Obama makes choices that feed his ego and hurt the poor.

Libs have a fancy way of ignoring facts that are inconvenient. With sky rocketing divorce rates and high rates of single adult bread winners in homes, we have instant access to poverty.
30 years ago when the majority of homes with children had 2 adult parents, if one loses a job, we didn't have instant poverty or foreclosure. Now some guys pay child support and miss their rent payments. The structure of the home shows how bad choices feed poverty.

Define the majority of children having 2 adult parent homes? What percentage was it? 51%? Compared to 49% today?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Define the majority of children having 2 adult parent homes? What percentage was it? 51%? Compared to 49% today?

It is ok if you don't have a reference to share to back up your example and question.