How to get the Gifts of the Spirit working?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

Neither. I believe the Spirit gets the gifts operating.

so then a church just has to sit there and wait quitely, perhaps reading the paper and suddenly God might make them operate? Are you a quaker?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

I disagree! God's Spirit is not subject to anyone. You are elevating man above God by saying the Spirit's working is somehow dependent on us humans.

You receive not because you ask not.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

so then a church just has to sit there and wait quitely, perhaps reading the paper and suddenly God might make them operate? Are you a Quaker?

Well, I wouldn't suggest reading the newspaper. I would, however, suggest being in one accord and suggest praying like the Jerusalem church did when the Holy Ghost fell on them that time they were praying about Peter being in prison.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

Well, I wouldn't suggest reading the newspaper. I would, however, suggest being in one accord and suggest praying like the Jerusalem church did when the Holy Ghost fell on them that time they were praying about Peter being in prison.

2Ti 1:6 For this reason, I am reminding you to fan into flames the gift of God that is within you through the laying on of my hands.

Act 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
Rom 12:7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;
Rom 12:8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that showeth mercy, with cheerfulness.

1Co 14:12 Even so you, since you are zealots of spiritual things, seek to build up the church, in order that you may abound

1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

Mat 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Mat 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Jas 4:3 You ask and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it upon your lusts.

I am persuaded that those that just sit around expecting God to do something get no results and those that wait on Him prayerfully and ask, those that are active get results.

[tv1a]

My suggestion is to visit Freedom Center Ministries. I can't remember the last time we haven't had at least one of the Gifts of the Spirit in visible operation. Signs and wonders follow those who believe.

I teach the GOS this way. When one gets the gift of the Holy Ghost, it's like getting a big present. When one opens the gift of the Holy Ghost, there are other gifts inside that box. It is up to use to open the box and discover the gifts God wants us to use.

[Steve Epley]

I have seen folks OPERATE the gifts now that is a quaint saying worth figuring out how can a saint OPERATE a gift???????

The Spirit OPERATES the gifts not the opposite.

A thought the Book of Acts covers about 27 years but we can read it in a short time. I think we envision this happening in a week's revival service. Could you imagine the record that would be written about what God has done in 27 years today?

[tv1a]

Scriptures suggests the GOTS were in operation on a regular basis. When you take into account that souls were added to the Kingdom daily, there is no doubt the GOTS were fully operational, during the begginning of the church era...tv

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have seen folks OPERATE the gifts now that is a quaint saying worth figuring out how can a saint OPERATE a gift???????

The Spirit OPERATES the gifts not the opposite.

A thought the Book of Acts covers about 27 years but we can read it in a short time. I think we envision this happening in a week's revival service. Could you imagine the record that would be written about what God has done in 27 years today?

[LadyCoonskinner]

Sorry to hijack.....Hey Felicity IM me...

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

First off anytime the gifts are used, resident, or moving in a service it only happens through HG filled people, i.e. "Gifts of the Spirit." Secondly and maybe the most important, it will happen to the willing, open-hearted, and those with faith in their heart.

Now, Felicity, you are on the right track here, but missing one thing....the spoken gifts are the most notable, as you have stated, but the unspoken gifts could be used in everyservice and not be noticed as much or at all. Example, during song praise and worship the congrecation begans to worship and it begans grow and a deeper worship hits. The leader of the service sometimes will use the gift of Knowledge and Widsom to say whether we will continue in that vein or change the order of a service.

I have known ministers, and lay people to operate in the unspoken gifts frequently and not know exactly what it is that they are doing. Some people make choices and decisions based on what they feel is conscience, but alot of times it is that gift working in them helping them to make that choice. That is one reason why I think the church as a whole needs to have more teaching on the gifts.

Myself I have been used in spoken gifts, and unspoken gifts. There are times I have prophetic words, but other times I know what people are doing in secret times, etc. That all flows from the gifts given by the Spirit. I have heard it said that there is not one person other than Jesus that all the gifts reside in. That can be true, but the most important factor is faith!

I don't see anything here to disagree with.And of course I agree that the other gifts of the Spirit excluding the spoken are definitely in operation often and go unremarked about.

Paul said tongues were the "least".

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by LadyCoonskinner

Sorry to hijack.....Hey Felicity IM me...

Okay hon.