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Old 03-08-2011, 01:30 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

I agree with parts of the list. Of course there are alot of things mixed in that are senseless, even from a conservative UPC/OP perspective.

For example: Many UCs do not believe alcohol is sin, and even use it for communion.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:33 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

Also, in the past General Superintendent's wives have worn some jewelry and cut bangs on the kids hair... were they immersed in guilt and trying to "look like the world"?
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:45 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

Sam ... are you posting those pics again:

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They post pictures of themselves on Facebook and My Space that are almost shocking.

Semi nude pictures
Tattoos
Drunken parties
Immodesty
Women with cut hair
Men with long hair
Pictures of their sinner girlfriend or boyfriend.
You get the picture. They have drastically changed and yet feel they are the same spiritual creature on the inside.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:49 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

One the comments of the pastor in Humble ... I got to wonder if he's digging at Grace and other Christians.... in Houston ...

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Elder Ballestero, Can I have permission from you to post this on my web site http://www.apostoliclifetab.com I am in Humble Texas where there are more backsliders per capita than any place that I know of…

God bless you for your well spoken words..
Well, if the pastor in Katy can slap around his former church and pastors ... why not?
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:52 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

They post pictures of themselves on Facebook and My Space that are almost shocking.

Semi nude pictures
Tattoos
Drunken parties
Immodesty
Women with cut hair
Men with long hair
Pictures of their sinner girlfriend or boyfriend.
You get the picture. They have drastically changed and yet feel they are the same spiritual creature on the inside.
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I don't do My Space.
I guess he's been looking at my Facebook pictures.
I have a picture of me on there sitting on a mechanical horse at Renfro Valley, KY and I was wearing shorts.

And some of my family members on there would be immodesty dressed according to him, and some have tattoos, and some may have a beer in their hand, and their hair might not fit his standards, but they are good kids and some of them are Christians.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:52 PM
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

The thing is that "convictions" have become a list of things pastor preaches and we as the saints are expected to follow and have stopped being things that the HolyGhost teaches and guides us in.So as far as me lining up with all the rules and regs yeah sometimes there is some disconfort on my part cause I know what is going through some peoples heads."You poor lost soul...you are wearing short sleeves and you havent shaved in a week you're gonna bust hell wide open." And no...I dont encounter this attitude in my local assembly...but I travel quite a bit.No I dont do everything perfect...there are many things I fail at and I know that my relationship with God could always use some inprovement on my end...but one thing I DONT do anymore is make snap judgements about someones spiritual condition by giving them a quick once over and by mentally quantifying their standards or lack of them.Not everyone that has left the "collective" is walking around like they have it all together...I know I dont.
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Re: Ballestero's The Saved Backslider

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They post pictures of themselves on Facebook and My Space that are almost shocking.

Semi nude pictures
Tattoos
Drunken parties
Immodesty
Women with cut hair
Men with long hair
Pictures of their sinner girlfriend or boyfriend.
You get the picture. They have drastically changed and yet feel they are the same spiritual creature on the inside.
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I don't do My Space.
I guess he's been looking at my Facebook pictures.
I have a picture of me on there sitting on a mechanical horse at Renfro Valley, KY and I was wearing shorts.

And some of my family members on there would be immodesty dressed according to him, and some have tattoos, and some may have a beer in their hand, and their hair might not fit his standards, but they are good kids and some of them are Christians.
Myspace? Who still uses a Myspace?

Pictures of cut hair is shocking?
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:58 PM
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Myspace? Who still uses a Myspace?

Pictures of cut hair is shocking?
Almost shocking and with their sinner boyfriends and girlfriends ... *gasp*
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The road to irrelevance ...
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Almost shocking and with their sinner boyfriends and girlfriends ... *gasp*


You know we are only playing up the part that he wants us to.

Bunch of scoffers and mockers... bunch of worldy, delusional sinners...
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