I affirm to not speak against other ... - Page 3

aegsm76 · #21 01-27-2011, 02:58 PM

iv.I will refrain from publicly speaking or writing against any other apostolic/Pentecostal organization. However, I do reserve the right to speak out or write as God would direct me against any sin, trend or compromise which weakens the truth and righteousness of God’s Word and Kingdom.

Fairly obvious to me that JG believed that he was speaking from the "However" clause of the article.

aegsm76 · #22 01-27-2011, 03:00 PM

Nice personal shots in your reply there DD.

pelathais · #23 01-27-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrnbcox

He did not slam the ORG. Never mentioned the ORG by name. He slammed the allowance of TV.

And He was right.

Hey, hey! Mr. NB Cox! Good to see you lurking about, bro. But why slam television advertising and television ministry when the Internet is a much more fertile dumping ground for evil?

DAII · #24 01-27-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Of course, some moronic statement like this would be made, which makes the entire thing even more dishonest and deceitful. He specifically mentions "another group" and goes to pains not to name it, but then describes the UPC to a perfect "T", even mentioning the location of the General Conference where the vote took place.

And then he, and his little groupies like you, get to follow it up with the deceitful statement of, "Oh, but I never mentioned them by name."

So tell me, Coxy, if your eternal soul was a stake would you honestly tell me there was any chance in this world he wasn't talking about the UPC? But really, it's all beside the point. Their values statement says they won't talk against other groups, not just the UPC.

They have become masters of semantics ... on both sides ... the word parsing is Clintonesque ...

Is means is.

aegsm76 · #25 01-27-2011, 03:07 PM

Pel - not to slam JG, but I really think the TV thing is more of a generational issue with preachers. Some have preached so long and hard against the evils of TV, that it has become part of their core belief.
It is hard for them to see that technology has made this argument almost null and void.
Now, I do not have a TV and probably never will.
However, the UPC concentrated so long on TV being the bad guy, that it forgot the real issue that it was preaching against.
Note - I do use UPC in the "general" sense here, as there were always those who focused on the real issue, which is the heart.

mrnbcox · #26 01-27-2011, 04:07 PM

Laughable that a post criticized Bro JG about How to have revival. He has built up a church of well over 1000' people.

The man knows how to have revival!

mrnbcox · #27 01-27-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Hey, hey! Mr. NB Cox! Good to see you lurking about, bro. But why slam television advertising and television ministry when the Internet is a much more fertile dumping ground for evil?

Hey

I'm against Hollywood on tv or internet. I believe we should keep pop-up lockers & filters on internet.

But I have yet to press my power button on my laptop & instantly Hollywood or smut starts playing its entertainment.

Both have the same potential for evil. Only 1 plays sin just by turning it on. You have to search for it on internet.

I preach against the entertainment of Hollywood in any form you find it.

DaffyDuck · #28 01-27-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Nice personal shots in your reply there DD.

So what? I didn't sign an oath in blood that I wouldn't. Besides, I was just pointing out the obvious.

pelathais · #29 01-27-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Pel - not to slam JG, but I really think the TV thing is more of a generational issue with preachers. Some have preached so long and hard against the evils of TV, that it has become part of their core belief.
It is hard for them to see that technology has made this argument almost null and void.
Now, I do not have a TV and probably never will.
However, the UPC concentrated so long on TV being the bad guy, that it forgot the real issue that it was preaching against.
Note - I do use UPC in the "general" sense here, as there were always those who focused on the real issue, which is the heart.

Once again, I agree with your sentiments. Maybe I was a bit harsh with the "carnal sermons" thing - but that "I'm 100% country!" thing baffled the daylights out of me then and still does to this day.

Also, the unnecessarily divisive tone and actions of JG and KG in recent years was troubling to me.

Praxeas · #30 01-27-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

iv.I will refrain from publicly speaking or writing against any other apostolic/Pentecostal organization. However, I do reserve the right to speak out or write as God would direct me against any sin, trend or compromise which weakens the truth and righteousness of God’s Word and Kingdom.

Fairly obvious to me that JG believed that he was speaking from the "However" clause of the article.

While violating the first clause