The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking - Page 3

rgcraig · #21 01-26-2011, 04:08 PM

Maybe the apathy is on the oneness side.

Michael The Disciple · #22 01-26-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

I dunno, Michael the Disciple. I didn't vote because the question struck me as one of those "trick question" polls. "Jesus" was the name given to a baby that was born in Bethlehem around 2,000 years ago (Matthew 1:21). Was THAT BABY "God the Father?" According to Joseph's vision, the Father of that Baby was "The Holy Ghost."

Is "the Holy Ghost" the Father of "God the Father?"

It's a more complex issue than what your question appeared to invite.

Its only complex because you all are making it complex. Most certainly the scriptures teach that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament. He was the only one who was God and the only one who was the Father.

If Jesus is him he is God the Father.

And most certainly ALL Oneness writers and I repeat ALL taught this. All the Oneness books I have ever read were teaching this. If anyone has a Oneness Pentecostal Book written lets say before 2005 and they do not promote Jesus as God the Father please let me know.

Dont worry you wont find one.

My question was not asking about whether Jesus is the Son of God. No one denies that.

Oneness doctrine has always taught Jesus is both Father and Son.

The revisionists are at work trying to make people believe this is not true.

Michael The Disciple · #23 01-26-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Maybe the apathy is on the oneness side.

Yes thats my point

rgcraig · #24 01-26-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Yes thats my point

Really.

I thought your point was AFF was anti-oneness.

Apathy for not wanting to vote does not equal to anti-oneness.

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

My poll asked the question to our Forum members is Jesus God the Father. Out of 1380 active members as of yesterday a whopping 25 people voted! Out of the 25 14 reported they do NOT believe Jesus is God the Father. On the Other hand 11 held that he is.

For a Oneness Forum I consider this to be a staggering defeat for Oneness doctrine.

So my initial impression that the flow of this forum is generally anti Oneness was by no means "nonsense" as it was spinned. It was the actual gauge of where Apostolic Friends Forum currently is.
Well trying to find the good side as I said earlier at least we are allowed to discuss Oneness doctrine here.

pelathais · #25 01-26-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its only complex because you all are making it complex. Most certainly the scriptures teach that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament. He was the only one who was God and the only one who was the Father.

If Jesus is him he is God the Father.

And most certainly ALL Oneness writers and I repeat ALL taught this. All the Oneness books I have ever read were teaching this. If anyone has a Oneness Pentecostal Book written lets say before 2005 and they do not promote Jesus as God the Father please let me know.

Dont worry you wont find one.

My question was not asking about whether Jesus is the Son of God. No one denies that.

Oneness doctrine has always taught Jesus is both Father and Son.

The revisionists are at work trying to make people believe this is not true.

How could Jesus be "the God of the Old Testament?" The Baby that was named Jesus wasn't born until more than 450 years AFTER the last book of the Old Testament was written.

Yet, the people described in the OT had a God that was alive and with them (or without them, as the case may be) during the OT time period.

Digging4Truth · #26 01-26-2011, 04:19 PM

I consider a refusal to offer a strictly biblical option is baiting and looking for a "shocking" response.

Your options make the whole point moot.

Michael The Disciple · #27 01-26-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

How could Jesus be "the God of the Old Testament?" The Baby that was named Jesus wasn't born until more than 450 years AFTER the last book of the Old Testament was written.

Yet, the people described in the OT had a God that was alive and with them (or without them, as the case may be) during the OT time period.

What? Is this supposed to be sophisticated satire?

rgcraig · #28 01-26-2011, 04:21 PM

I thought MtD didn't want to discuss it on this thread.

Michael The Disciple · #29 01-26-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I consider a refusal to offer a strictly biblical option is baiting and looking for a "shocking" response.

Your options make the whole point moot.

But my question WAS very strictly Biblical.

Digging4Truth · #30 01-26-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

But my question WAS very strictly Biblical.

Your options weren't. I prefer options that reflect the word of God above those that reflect ones interpretation thereof.

And... less than 2% polling does not a clear picture make.

You wanted to be shocked. The whole reason for the thread is that you were already convinced.

You have proved apathy. That is all. If that is shocking then be shocked. Otherwise... it is an exercise in futility.