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05-06-2007, 03:23 PM
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I doubt any churches responded with less than 10. But even so, 10 is much closer to 154 than 1000 is to 154.
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But the sheer numbers of the dozen membership churches would warp the statistics to be much closer to lesser than the greater number.
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I am sure headquarters would have all the stats available... but perhaps not for public consumption.
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I would be greatly disappointed to know that I've poured my support of labor, love and untold thousands of dollars into another secret society for 67 years. Say it aint so!
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05-06-2007, 03:26 PM
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Daniel,
I guess I am at a loss at your point here..
Are you saying only large numbers show growth?
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05-06-2007, 03:28 PM
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Daniel,
I guess I am at a loss at your point here..
Are you saying only large numbers show growth?
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Of course not .... Impact is the greatest indicator of growth ...
I am also disturbed about the trend I've observed ....the stunting of qualified men to open churches within the fellowship ....
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05-06-2007, 03:32 PM
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Of course not .... Impact is the greatest indicator of growth ...
I am also disturbed about the trend I've observed the stunting of qualified men to open churched in the fellowship ....
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We have broken the 50 mark here in a year and usually have 35-40 on a regular basis each service. We have 3 licensed preachers. One is retired, and so the stats are not as dismal as the sheer number present.
I remember one year hearing a BOTT sermon that challenged every worker in the church to win ONE soul.
I do not find stunting as common as you portray.
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05-06-2007, 03:36 PM
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I think the planting of churches needs to be re-examined ... that's all ... some of these large sized churches ... would have more of an impact if they down-sized and various daughter churches grew out of them ..... especially when there are qualified men sitting ....
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05-06-2007, 03:42 PM
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I think the planting of churches needs to be re-examined ... that's all ... some of these large sized churches ... would have more of an impact if they down-sized and various daughter churches grew out of them ..... especially when there a qualified men sitting ....
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The obstacles are Mentoring and Ego.
Either those sitting were never Mentored fully, or have an Ego that does not lead to mentoring.
Or the Ego of those above is not willing to allow mentoring.
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05-06-2007, 03:43 PM
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Take NJ for instance since 1982 ... they've seen only 19 churches added net ... I'm sure there are some qualified men sitting in those churches ... that could open up a work ...
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05-06-2007, 03:44 PM
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But the sheer numbers of the dozen membership churches would warp the statistics to be much closer to lesser than the greater number.
I would be greatly disappointed to know that I've poured my support of labor, love and untold thousands of dollars into another secret society for 67 years. Say it aint so!
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Maybe, maybe not. I don't have those numbers.
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05-06-2007, 03:45 PM
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The obstacles are Mentoring and Ego.
Either those sitting were never Mentored fully, or have an Ego that does not lead to mentoring.
Or the Ego of those above is not willing to allow mentoring.
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add nepotism .. sons and son-on-laws ... get groomed and placed first.
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05-06-2007, 03:49 PM
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Steve ... your church has 6 licensed ministers ... are there any daughter works these men, or women, are involved in .....?? Or plans for them to be involved in????
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We have two Pastors, one Evangelist, one involved with men/youth, and two involved in Spanish church (one which I understand is becoming a foreign Missionary) Now that I think of it, our youth leader may also be licensed.
350 is attendance... membership may be higher.
Ministers of daughter works are not counted in this number.
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