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Old 01-11-2011, 03:49 PM
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The NT shows a change of mind does it not?
I think if the oysters are smoked and eaten with crackers He wouldn't mind.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:20 PM
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The NT shows a change of mind does it not?
Well not really. It's not a new idea, it's the same one fleshed out.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:28 PM
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What about Hezekiah? You're gonna die and not live God said. Then He added years to his life!

And don't you think He's probably changed His mind a few times concerning you, Timmy?
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What about Hezekiah? You're gonna die and not live God said. Then He added years to his life!

And don't you think He's probably changed His mind a few times concerning you, Timmy?
I think Timmy may be hearing the echos of:

"He's the same, yesterday, today and forever..." A poorly exegeted verse thrown out across pulpits regularly.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:31 PM
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Re: Could God change His mind?

Then I think of fasting. How Esther and all the Jews fasted just before the King's decision.

Don't know why, but that troubles me as well. There seem to be tensions in the Bible. On the one hand, trust in, rely upon God. Be content in your circumstance. On the other hand, try to force God's hand by pious acts. Doesn't seem to be consistent.
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Hmmmm...I don't know that it's as much about God changing His mind, as much as leaving room for humans to have input in the outcome.

Technically, all who have sinned are worthy of death, so does God "change His mind" every time He forgives a sinner and tosses out the death penalty?

I would lean toward an explanation where:

1. God always leaves room for human influence, or

2. When we perceive that He has changed His mind, it really was His plan all along, as a teaching exercise. Surely He knew that Ninevah was going to repent? He certainly was insistent that Jonah arrive and tell them they needed to; it seemed that Jonah was the one being taught the lesson; not Ninevah. God put a lot more pressure on Jonah to carry the message of doom than He did on Ninevah to repent.
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What about Hezekiah? You're gonna die and not live God said. Then He added years to his life!

And don't you think He's probably changed His mind a few times concerning you, Timmy?
Many times, I'm sure!
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Hmmmm...I don't know that it's as much about God changing His mind, as much as leaving room for humans to have input in the outcome.

Technically, all who have sinned are worthy of death, so does God "change His mind" every time He forgives a sinner and tosses out the death penalty?

I would lean toward an explanation where:

1. God always leaves room for human influence, or

2. When we perceive that He has changed His mind, it really was His plan all along, as a teaching exercise. Surely He knew that Ninevah was going to repent? He certainly was insistent that Jonah arrive and tell them they needed to; it seemed that Jonah was the one being taught the lesson; not Ninevah. God put a lot more pressure on Jonah to carry the message of doom than He did on Ninevah to repent.
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That's what that bloody cross thing was all about, wasn't it? He didn't change his mind, he took the justice (read: judgment) of all our sins upon Him.
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Re: Could God change His mind?

I do agree with MB with the "it was his plan all along" idea. That's hard for hardcore free-willers. But I do believe God's involvement and control is more real than we realize. And that's a comfort.
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That's what that bloody cross thing was all about, wasn't it? He didn't change his mind, he took the justice (read: judgment) of all our sins upon Him.
Yes...but if you don't repent of your sins, you still get the death penalty. Right?
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