Huntley tonite: Acts 2:38 is the Only Gospel

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Was Paul endorsing Re-Enactment???

or was he referring to an experience in the lives of his readers that happened the moment they believed in Jesus?

did the death, burial, and resurrection become theirs the moment they first trusted in Jesus?

or was their death, burial, and resurrection stretched out into three completely separate experiences that may have happened miles apart geographically and years apart in time?

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by DAII

Acts 2:38 is not the "full gospel" it's the ONLY GOSPEL plan of salvation. - Wayne Huntley GC10

Do they not hear themselves?

This is man's plan of salvation. God's plan of salvation is that His son Jesus the Christ would die for the sins of the world....I'm just saying

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by staysharp

This is man's plan of salvation. God's plan of salvation is that His son Jesus the Christ would die for the sins of the world....I'm just saying

You mean that Jesus Christ would die for those predestined from the foundation.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Was Paul endorsing Re-Enactment???

Actually here Paul speaks how baptism alone signifies all three ... something you don't believe ... as in your paradigm it is only a burial.

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

You mean that Jesus Christ would die for those predestined from the foundation.

No, I mean he died for all....all is all that all means...

[DAII]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What then is the purpose of repentance, and water and Spirit baptisms, Dan?

Mizpeh, we've been through all this for almost 4 years now. You're stuck on performance salvation ... I'm cool with that.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

Actually here Paul speaks how baptism alone signifies all three ... something you don't believe ... as in your paradigm it is only a burial.

I guess we just don't see eye to eye on this.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

I guess we just don't see eye to eye on this.

No, you don't see eye to eye with Paul, DWW. He clearly speaks of all three in relation to baptism and you want to force your three-step soul wash on him.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by staysharp

This is man's plan of salvation. God's plan of salvation is that His son Jesus the Christ would die for the sins of the world....I'm just saying

C'mon preacher!

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by DAII

Mizpeh, we've been through through this for almost 4 years now. You're stuck on performance salvation ... I'm cool with that.

No act of obedience is need for salvation, isn't that what you've been touting DA? Just mental ascent and all is well? The only doing needed is to beleive?

You can go on with that but you'd need to disregard Hebrews and James when it comes to true faith. Why is it that each of the hero's of faith in Hebrews seems to mention the actions they took?

Or what of James:

Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Faith can not live without action.