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Old 10-02-2010, 01:30 PM
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... They would take a long athletic sock put a rock in it and swing it someone as they were walking down the sidewalk,they called it, n word knockin, (this was in the sixties) NO race is free from racisim,received or given.Sanchez is an idiot ,he just finally exposed himself to the core.
I first heard the term "n... knocking" at a UPC Bible School in 1956/1957. A young man mentioned something about being bored and continued on with "At least if we were home (in Louisiana) we could go n.... knockin'. When pressed for an explanation of what that meant he explained that they would drive around in a car, see a person of color riding a bike, pull the car up next to him, slow down, and someone would reach through the open car window and hit the bicycle rider with a baseball bat. I was from Wisconsin and was appalled that people down south were doing something like that for fun. I was really appalled that it was being done by Apostolic/Pentecostal youth and they did not see anything wrong with it. I guess I was just naive.
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:47 PM
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So Sanchez was just flat wrong about his assessment of the media conglomerates?

Is CNN free of Jewish influence?
Jewish influence? What the heck is that? If there are Mexicans working at CNN does that mean we can ask "Is CNN free of Mexican influence"?

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Does anyone really think that Northeastern American Jews face discrimination on any level?
Apparently you aren't one and never dealt with seeing a swastika painted on the wall

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Growing up in MD (which is Mid-Atlantic) I'd have to say that I don't remember hearing about or witnessing anything that would let me think that Jews were being discriminated against.
I don't know that there are a lot of Jews in Maryland. That doesn't make Rick Sanchez's bigoted statements correct. No, the skinhead zionists conspiracy hate trash is not true. Jews really are NOT running the world, nor Hollywood. Compared to the number of non Jews in Hollywood, they constitute a very very small minority. Listening to these bigots you'd expect to walk into a CNN board room and find a bunch of Jews running around.

BTW Rick Sanchez...how did he get his job if he isn't a Jew and CNN is run by a bunch of bigoted jews huh? Rick Sanchez just portrayed a lot of what is wrong with America...the race card.

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I did hear some blacks who would say things about Jews-- but they were in no position to affect Jews. They just spewing hatred (The Final Call newspapers and radio broadcasts).
oh no,no position. Right. Just leave it up to the skinheads and the jew haters like Rick Sanchez and his buddy from down under Mel Gibson...

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Is there anyone that can see where Sanchez is coming from or is his frustration all in his head?
Frustration? He had a high profile, high paying job that most Americans, even Jews, would envy to have! Good grief and as for John Stewart, he hits on everyone not just everyone but Jews.
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:49 PM
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Yeah, I got to agree that Sanchez was off base with his remarks. I was not a fan of his, but I can see how Stewart would have gotten under his skin. Stewart has done a couple of funny bits on him in the past, but they didn't seem overly harsh.
Rick Sanchez, with a smile on his face, hit John Stewart back on his CNN show like it was all good.

And Stewart is an equal opportunity offender. He ripped Bush to shreds and other conservatives
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I would not be surprised if his next job is with Fox News in some capacity.
Funny because he railed against fox news on his show. I didn't love the man, didn't hate him, but I would not want him to be fired. However I find it kind of odd

If Rick had said what he said of any other race, except whites, this would have exploded and all over the nation people would be calling for his job.

In this case he railed on Jews and nobody seems to be up in arms, yet he got fired anyways.

I wonder if he was given an opportunity to talk to the CNN guys and offer to make an apology and keep his job? Our nation is so jaded, the more and more it claims to be fighting racism the more it becomes racially polarized and the less forgiving our nation becomes
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lol, not really. I am fine with Shepard Smith most of the time and Bill O'Reilly some of the time. No need for Sanchez.
Shep is a crack up :-)
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Ok.

I really don't think that Sanchez is just out of his mind. I think there is at the bare minimum, some reality to his perspective.


Is Rick Sanchez a bitter, race-baiting imbecille?

Is Sanchez racist, or maybe he's just prejudiced against elitist Northeasterners and Jews?


Is there anyone on AFF who can come to the defense of Sanchez?
Yes he is and you are in agreement with him. How long have you felt this way about jews?

So it seems everyone has their pet prejudiced. Blacks hate jews, whites and hispanics. Hispanics hate whites,blacks and Jews and whites hate everyone else. Lovely world we live in
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Shep is a crack up :-)
Yeah especially the time he tried to do a lead in on J LO, its online if ya wanna see it.Talk about a red face !
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Why couldn't you?

Is it because of what he said or who he used to work for-- I've never seen Rick as much of an idealogue.
Rick Sanchez is an interesting guy but clearly he hates jews and you agree with him. He bemoans how his father was treated back in the day, yet he had one of the highest profile jobs at one of the highest profile news networks despite being hispanic.

It's Rick Sanchez's careless words and yours that fuels anti-Semitism in Europe back hundreds of years ago today and during Nazi Germany....really through out history. That is how the Jews were persecuted in Europe...yours and Ricks careless words

Blame the Jews.
Jews Have Been Hated for Economic Reasons

Historians believe that some people’s perception of Jews as rich and powerful has led to discrimination. Some Jews held jobs as money lenders, which allowed them to earn money by charging interest. There are stipulations against charging interest in both Catholicism and Islam. Jewish law prohibits Jews from charging other Jews interest on loans but permits Jews to charge non-Jews interest. Jewish usury accusations were one reason that Jews faced discrimination.
Economic motivations for Jewish discrimination do not present an exhaustive explanation of Jewish discrimination, however, as evidenced by the fact that there were many poor Jews, particularly in Poland and Russia, where numerous pogroms were carried out in the 19th and 20th centuries.


Jews Have Been Discriminated Against for Their Race

Jews have been persecuted because of their race. Racial, not religious, discrimination was the reason for the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler believed Jews were an inferior race that should be destroyed, and he set out to systematically realize this goal. Nonetheless, there is no homogenous Jewish race. There are Jews of every race—white, black, Asian, and so on.


Read more at Suite101: Why are Jews Persecuted? — Jewish Discrimination: Reasons for Racial and Religious Persecution of Jews, Anti-Semitism http://www.suite101.com/content/why-...#ixzz11EJBopDZ



http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/antisemitism.asp


http://www.nme.com/news/roger-waters/53260

Roger Waters' 30th anniversary show of Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' has been accused of being anti-Semitic.

The allegations come from the Anti-Defamation League, who claim the stage show uses imagery associated with stereotypes about Jews and money.

In particular the claims point out that during the performance of the song 'Goodbye Blue Sky', an animated projection shows airplanes dropping bombs in the shapes of Jewish Stars of David followed by dollar signs, although various other religious and corporate symbols are also depicted.

Ok, antisemitism still exists and your hero Rick Sanchez perpetuates not only the very stereotype that is used as an excuse but you agree with him
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All it takes is one offended Jew that spends on advertising and the companies fire a bigot. CNN fired the CEO this week. It is time to drain the swamp and try to recover some market share from Fox.
A Jewish heiress to the Hearst corporation made a phone call and took Helen Thomas and Helen's bigoted remarks as nasty. Helen was allowed to split before a Monday morning.
The rabid claims from the leftist media are getting old and people are starting to speak up.
I would have thought Helen Thomas would get by with her rudeness but it took only one call.
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I first heard the term "n... knocking" at a UPC Bible School in 1956/1957. A young man mentioned something about being bored and continued on with "At least if we were home (in Louisiana) we could go n.... knockin'. When pressed for an explanation of what that meant he explained that they would drive around in a car, see a person of color riding a bike, pull the car up next to him, slow down, and someone would reach through the open car window and hit the bicycle rider with a baseball bat. I was from Wisconsin and was appalled that people down south were doing something like that for fun. I was really appalled that it was being done by Apostolic/Pentecostal youth and they did not see anything wrong with it. I guess I was just naive.
That's not what N....knocking was here when I was a kid. We would go around and knock on someone's door then run. One time a friend got busted and the person that answered the door was black. They asked her what she was doing and she said "whitey knocking" lol. I haven't heard that term in a long long time
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