The Revival We Need

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I believe in revival too and I definitely believe in an end time revival. There have been several revivals just in the last decade that have greatly affected many areas of the world. The revival that took place in China was phenomenal - truly amazing and truly sovereignly designed and birthed by God Almighty.

Does or would anybody here agree that most of the great revivals that have happened which have impacted whole countries, nations and regions have have not come through or as a result of a church?

I know that prayer moves God and that God responds to love for the lost and intercession on their behalf.

There are men and women today standing in the gap and their prayer is making a difference.

I tend to disagree. Every revival I have ever studied has been a result of men and women humbling themselves before Almighty God, and praying. Sometimes it was years before the answer came.

The Welsh revival of 1904 did not start in 1904, but started approx 8 years prior when Evan Roberts was seen burdened for God, and crying out "BEND ME!".

I think the problem is that we see the end results, but we do not always see the sometimes years of secret prayer and travail that prepared the soil for seed time, and harvest.

I am hungry today for God, and that hunger grows.

[Sister Alvear]

Let's all begin praying if we have not been for a great revival beginnning in our hearts and families.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I tend to disagree. Every revival I have ever studied has been a result of men and women humbling themselves before Almighty God, and praying. Sometimes it was years before the answer came.

The Welsh revival of 1904 did not start in 1904, but started approx 8 years prior when Evan Roberts was seen burdened for God, and crying out "BEND ME!".

I think the problem is that we see the end results, but we do not always see the sometimes years of secret prayer and travail that prepared the soil for seed time, and harvest.

I am hungry today for God, and that hunger grows.

Oh, I definitely agree that prayer is a necessary ingredient, but we know that for the most part the Church per se' isn't praying.

How many church members consistently travail and intercede for the lost? Very few. But it only takes a few praying people who truly know and have learned how to pray to affect things ..... spiritually speaking. I absolutely believe this!

Want to know what brings revival? Well, I'll tell you. Revivals happens when some unknown appears on the scene with a message that DIFFERS from the "common" messages of the day.

John the baptist came onto the scene preaching a message which differed greatly from the mesage of the Pharisees and Sadduccees, and REVIVAL took place!

The message of the apostles, begun when Peter stood up in Jerusalem following the outpouring of the Holy Ghost, and a great REVIVAL began which many said was causing the "world to be turned upside down."

ONE woman, in a small unknown religious school in Topeka, Kansas "began to speak in tongues," and a REVIVAL began!

In a small building on a street unfamiliar to many (Azusa), a small group began to experience the baptism of the Holy Ghost (which varied significantly from the mainstream religious groups of that day), and REVIVAL started and swept across the length of the US and beyond!

A little known preacher stood up at a tent meeting in Los Angeles, California and preached of the necessity for immersion in the waters of baptism "in the name of Jesus," and REVIVAL started!

What the worldwide Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement desperately NEEDS in this perilous hour, is for some unknown "nobody" whom God has given a significant message to deliver, to suddenly appear on the scene and we will then experience REVIVAL. BUT....... guess what? When that seemingly insignificant "chosen" person whom God has selected to deliver this "message" appears, MOST modern-day preachers would prohibit him from standing in their pulpit, BECAUSE his "message" would not conform to the acceptable "man-made creeds" which they embrace and so tenaciously defend!

THIS is WHY we are not experiencing REVIVAL today! (IMHO, of course!)

It was NOT through the established religious leaders that God chose to deliver the most important message mankind has ever known - the introduction of our Savour to the world! It was a "nobody," attired in clothing made from camel's skin, and eating locusts for his food. Oh God! Send us a man like John the baptist, so that we might have REVIVAL!!

Originally Posted by PaPaDon

Want to know what brings revival? Well, I'll tell you. Revivals happens when some unknown appears on the scene with a message that DIFFERS from the "common" messages of the day.

John the baptist came onto the scene preaching a message which differed greatly from the mesage of the Pharisees and Sadduccees, and REVIVAL took place!

The message of the apostles, begun when Peter stood up in Jerusalem following the outpouring of the Holy Ghost, and a great REVIVAL began which many said was causing the "world to be turned upside down."

ONE woman, in a small unknown religious school in Topeka, Kansas "began to speak in tongues," and a REVIVAL began!

In a small building on a street unfamiliar to many (Azusa), a small group began to experience the baptism of the Holy Ghost (which varied significantly from the mainstream religious groups of that day), and REVIVAL started and swept across the length of the US and beyond!

A little known preacher stood up at a tent meeting in Los Angeles, California and preached of the necessity for immersion in the waters of baptism "in the name of Jesus," and REVIVAL started!

What the worldwide Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement desperately NEEDS in this perilous hour, is for some unknown "nobody" whom God has given a significant message to deliver, to suddenly appear on the scene and we will then experience REVIVAL. BUT....... guess what? When that seemingly insignificant "chosen" person whom God has selected to deliver this "message" appears, MOST modern-day preachers would prohibit him from standing in their pulpit, BECAUSE his "message" would not conform to the acceptable "man-made creeds" which they embrace and so tenaciously defend!

THIS is WHY we are not experiencing REVIVAL today! (IMHO, of course!)

It was NOT through the established religious leaders that God chose to deliver the most important message mankind has ever known - the introduction of our Savour to the world! It was a "nobody," attired in clothing made from camel's skin, and eating locusts for his food. Oh God! Send us a man like John the baptist, so that we might have REVIVAL!!

Great post, PapaDon.

[Charlie Brown]

I know that this was not a juicy gossip thread, but I was hoping we could get some real talk going about revival, and how to achieve it.

[Charlie Brown]

by the way...

When I read the account on the first post, I have no doubt that we are as lost as 2 boys kissing here in the US if we think we are in revival.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I know that this was not a juicy gossip thread, but I was hoping we could get some real talk going about revival, and how to achieve it.

Good thread - I agree!

Originally Posted by stmatthew

This is a powerful call. I read this book many years back, and have no doubt that we in America are so despirate for a real revival. We are cold. We no longer recognize what a real move of God looks like, or feels like. We have lost something in the transition from storefront to cathedral. We don't know what it means to suffer for his names sake. We have forgotten the healing power of pentecost, opting for the doctors balm instead of the balm of gilead.

The revival we need is still available to those that thirst for it. But are we available for the revival we need?

No. Not until we are beaten and humbled. Until then, we will chase after our own selfish ends. God's Word says that when judgment is in the earth, the inhabitants learn righteousness.

We are going to take a severe beating first. I've already seen it in an all day vision in Alexandria, La., in 1978. We, as a nation are going to suffer greatly in many ways, but in the end, even brush arbors will reappear. Store fronts will open up churches will be packed out continously. A new day of great outpouring will come. I only hope that it will happen in my lifetime.

After the great outpouring in Wales, Evan Roberts totally disappeared. Does anyone know what happened to him? I do. What a story can be told!

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

No. Not until we are beaten and humbled. Until then, we will chase after our own selfish ends. God's Word says that when judgment is in the earth, the inhabitants learn righteousness.

We are going to take a severe beating first. I've already seen it in an all day vision in Alexandria, La., in 1978. We, as a nation are going to suffer greatly in many ways, but in the end, even brush arbors will reappear. Store fronts will open up churches will be packed out continously. A new day of great outpouring will come. I only hope that it will happen in my lifetime.

After the great outpouring in Wales, Evan Roberts totally disappeared. Does anyone know what happened to him? I do. What a story can be told!

Didn't he have a nervous breakdown, and stayed in seclusion for many years. I know he partnered with J Penn Lewis to write "War on the Saints". I think that was the name of it.