Salvation Message

[coadie]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Well, you won't ever have to hear me preach, as I'm not a preacher. Just a person seeking the truth, as I would hope you are. Your arrogance is very annoying to me.

You betcha.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Jason

Looking for some opinions...

How often should a pastor preach the Salvation message?
My thoughts are that no visitor should ever leave without understanding that they must:

1) Not cut or trim their hair
2) Wave it in the wind
3) Know more than the witches know

What would you do if you felt your pastor did not preach the salvation message as often as you would like?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Well, you won't ever have to hear me preach, as I'm not a preacher. Just a person seeking the truth, as I would hope you are. Your arrogance is very annoying to me.

And your thin-skinned judgmentalism is annoying me so I guess we're even. Look, I just said I wouldn't wanna hear you preach if all you talked about was the three-steps. And I also said your version of the 3-steps isn't the "Plan of salvation." Do you disagree? Let's try dialoging rather than judging....if you're able.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Looking for some opinions...

How often should a pastor preach the Salvation message?
My thoughts are that no visitor should ever leave without understanding that they must:

1) Repent
2) Be baptized
3) Receive the Holy Ghost (with speaking in tongues as evidence).

What would you do if you felt your pastor did not preach the salvation message as often as you would like?

I would prefer to see a more evangelistic approach centered on the Person and work of Jesus Christ. Instead of telling your "visitor" what he or she MUST do... tell them what has already been done on their behalf.

This is message that I see as being overlooked by most of our "UPCI" type preaching. Jesus saves. Tell people that.

[houstonupci]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I would prefer to see a more evangelistic approach centered on the Person and work of Jesus Christ. Instead of telling your "visitor" what he or she MUST do... tell them what has already been done on their behalf.

This is message that I see as being overlooked by most of our "UPCI" type preaching. Jesus saves. Tell people that.

I'm glad Paul didn't have the same view. He was asked "what must we do?" What if he would have replied "Nothing. Everything has already been taken care of."

[houstonupci]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

And your thin-skinned judgmentalism is annoying me so I guess we're even. Look, I just said I wouldn't wanna hear you preach if all you talked about was the three-steps. And I also said your version of the 3-steps isn't the "Plan of salvation." Do you disagree? Let's try dialoging rather than judging....if you're able.

Yes I do disagree. I believe the "three steps" are vital to salvation. They may not be the only part, but they are definitely vital.

Also, your quote was not that you wouldn't wanna hear me preach if all I talked about was the three-steps. You said you would "hate to have to hear me preach."

[berkeley]

HOUSTONUPCI:
It was Peter who was asked "what must we do?" It was asked AFTER Peter preached the gospel.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Yes I do disagree. I believe the "three steps" are vital to salvation. They may not be the only part, but they are definitely vital.

Also, your quote was not that you wouldn't wanna hear me preach if all I talked about was the three-steps. You said you would "hate to have to hear me preach."

Why are the 3-steps part of salvation? Isn't salvation found in Grace and Mercy through Jesus and the cross?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Yes I do disagree. I believe the "three steps" are vital to salvation. They may not be the only part, but they are definitely vital.

Also, your quote was not that you wouldn't wanna hear me preach if all I talked about was the three-steps. You said you would "hate to have to hear me preach."

Understood, but that's what I was referring to...you seemed to be saying that the three steps should be preached every Sunday. My reaction was, "Man, then I'd hate to hear you preach."

But I did hear a pastor once state that he preached "The New Birth" (as understood by him) for 73 straight Sundays.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Understood, but that's what I was referring to...you seemed to be saying that the three steps should be preached every Sunday. My reaction was, "Man, then I'd hate to hear you preach."

But I did hear a pastor once state that he preached "The New Birth" (as understood by him) for 73 straight Sundays.

Did he have 73 straight altar calls? That is a lot.