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U376977 · #21 02-08-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TroubleMaker

Naaaa, I'm still confused. The UPC is not the largest Jesus Name organization. That's probably The Southern Baptist Convention. But there are many other Baptist groups, as well, dozens of them. But we have to consider many other Jesus Name groups, such as Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Church of God, Nazarenes, my goodness, the list goes on forever of Jesus Name denominations that are larger than the UPC.

I understand now that you are just being "dense" on purpose to try to prove a point. So the joke is on me.

But the point is still not lost that there is a distinct and OH SO IMPORTANT, difference in the orgs that you mention and those who practice baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ. Yes, many of the "oneness" trinitarians use the name of Jesus in prayer, some what hypocritically, to be honest and true to their refusal to use the name of Jesus Christ in baptism, they should also refuse its use in all cases including prayer. They should close all their prayers in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!

I wonder if there is anyplace, any online source, or a book, put out by the trinitarian orgs. that claim that they are "Jesus Name." I think NOT. They would not want to identify themselves with those of us who are follwers of the Name.

To any honest observer, trinitarian orgs. cannot be called "Jesus Name."

jfrog · #22 02-08-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TroubleMaker

You have raised a valid point. I am heading, right now, over to www.baptistfriendsforum.com and I'm going to tell them off. Man, I'm really mad now!

Seriously, the term, "Full Gospel" has always been terribly irritating to me. "We're 'Full Gospel', you other poor schmucks are only half-gospel!"

I don't care for labels, in case you can't tell. They're terribly exclusionary and unfair.

lol.

Maybe labels are unfair. It just depends on how one takes them I think.

Personally I think labels are useful. And besides naming or labeling was one of the first jobs God gave man to do. Man had to name the animals. I guess it might can be said that naming or labeling things is in our nature

jfrog · #23 02-08-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by U376977

I understand now that you are just being "dense" on purpose to try to prove a point. So the joke is on me.

But the point is still not lost that there is a distinct and OH SO IMPORTANT, difference in the orgs that you mention and those who practice baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ. Yes, many of the "oneness" trinitarians use the name of Jesus in prayer, some what hypocritically, to be honest and true to their refusal to use the name of Jesus Christ in baptism, they should also refuse its use in all cases including prayer. They should close all their prayers in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!

I wonder if there is anyplace, any online source, or a book, put out by the trinitarian orgs. that claim that they are "Jesus Name." I think NOT. They would not want to identify themselves with those of us who are follwers of the Name.

To any honest observer, trinitarian orgs. cannot be called "Jesus Name."

Nevermind anything I previosly posted... have at him TroubleMaker. I hate the kinda attitude shown above just as much as you do.

Praxeas · #24 02-08-2010, 08:27 PM

Maybe Troublemaker is really someone else pretending to not know what Sister Alvear means...of course that would make him an Ultra Con because we all know only the Ultra Con's deceive others like that....right?

Sister Alvear · #25 02-08-2010, 08:34 PM

He/she would have to be awful dumb not to know...for after all this is an Apostolic oneness site. All may not be oneness but all know what oneness is when we refer to it.

jfrog · #26 02-08-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

He/she would have to be awful dumb not to know...for after all this is an Apostolic oneness site. All may not be oneness but all know what oneness is when we refer to it.

Anything else good about the UPC?

TroubleMaker · #27 02-08-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by U376977

I understand now that you are just being "dense" on purpose to try to prove a point. So the joke is on me.

But the point is still not lost that there is a distinct and OH SO IMPORTANT, difference in the orgs that you mention and those who practice baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ. Yes, many of the "oneness" trinitarians use the name of Jesus in prayer, some what hypocritically, to be honest and true to their refusal to use the name of Jesus Christ in baptism, they should also refuse its use in all cases including prayer. They should close all their prayers in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost!

I wonder if there is anyplace, any online source, or a book, put out by the trinitarian orgs. that claim that they are "Jesus Name." I think NOT. They would not want to identify themselves with those of us who are follwers of the Name.

To any honest observer, trinitarian orgs. cannot be called "Jesus Name."

Case and point!!!!

No wait, is it "Case and point" or "Case in point"? Now I'm confused again!

Anyway, you've made my point perfectly!! You have a monopoly on the name of Jesus. All those other idiots are hypocrites!

TroubleMaker · #28 02-08-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Nevermind anything I previosly posted... have at him TroubleMaker. I hate the kinda attitude shown above just as much as you do.

I knew you'd come around! You know, this thread wasn't going anywhere so I thought I'd help it out. So hey, jfrog, are you oneness, twoness, or threeness? Are you Jesus name or non-Jesus name?

Sam · #29 02-08-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TroubleMaker

You have raised a valid point. I am heading, right now, over to www.baptistfriendsforum.com and I'm going to tell them off. Man, I'm really mad now!

Seriously, the term, "Full Gospel" has always been terribly irritating to me. "We're 'Full Gospel', you other poor schmucks are only half-gospel!"

I don't care for labels, in case you can't tell. They're terribly exclusionary and unfair.

Full Gospel (at least in my understanding) means a Gospel that includes physical healing and the Holy Ghost Baptism(Pentecostal Experience) and the gifts of the Spirit in contrast to some churches who teach salvation but also cessationism. I agree, when we say that we are Full Gospel it can be seen as a putdown of others.

Sam · #30 02-08-2010, 09:48 PM

C'mon guys. We (myself included) do so much UPC bashing here.
Why not allow someone who is familiar with missions work and with various Oneness Pentecostal organizations say something good about the UPC?

Be honest, there's lots of good people in the UPC and the UPC as an organization does lots of good stuff.