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Old 04-23-2007, 07:54 AM
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If Jesus's flesh was divine ,then how could Christ have been able to give up the ghost ?
I agree his flesh was not devine, but his blood line was from the Spirit right?
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Bro Mike, I have always embraced the views you express, and consider Paul's remarks concerning this issue to represent a further validation of the words found recorded in Romans 8:16-23. Just as our Lord's BODILY resurrection from the dead depicted the "means" through He was "glorified" by the attaining of a HEAVENLY body, then we who also have resident within our physical EARTHY bodies the very same Spirit which dwelt without measure in our Lord's physical body, shall experience a similar REDEMPTION at our resurrection from the dead.

Thank you for expounding upon this principle which seems to have become lost among the variety of erroneous carnal-minded concepts, theories, and suppositions which so dominate the thinking of many in our day.
What about those of us alive and remaining who are caught up together to be with the Lord? We didn't die and yet we are changed...

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Old 04-23-2007, 08:02 AM
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Some of their resoning for the Divine flesh doctrine is that we're all born with sin, and Christ was sinless. But I've not found where the Bible teaches that we're all born in sin. I've heard it taught all my life, but I can't find scriptures for it.

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Old 04-23-2007, 08:05 AM
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Some of their resoning for the Divine flesh doctrine is that we're all born with sin, and Christ was sinless. But I've not found where the Bible teaches that we're all born in sin. I've heard it taught all my life, but I can't find scriptures for it.

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Bro. Moon,

You definitely need a Bible Study and there are several very wise and studied men and women of God on here to help you out. From the fall of Adam and Eve the scripture bears out the fallen/sinful nature of man and how the 2nd man Adam/Christ Jesus became the propitiation/redemption/and reconciler for us...Genesis to Revelation bro.

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Elder Blume in refuting FP did a wonderful article on the bodily resurrection of Christ and the church which is future.
To answer someone else YES Jesus is the Son of God NOW! And Bishop Johnson was wrong.
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Some of their resoning for the Divine flesh doctrine is that we're all born with sin, and Christ was sinless. But I've not found where the Bible teaches that we're all born in sin. I've heard it taught all my life, but I can't find scriptures for it.

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Romans 5 teaches one man, Adam, made many men sinners. His action did that, and that action occurred before we were born. So, we were born sinners.
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What about those of us alive and remaining who are caught up together to be with the Lord? We didn't die and yet we are changed...

Blessings, Rhoni
It's still a resurrection, I believe. This mortal is a dying body. So we are changed and rise from that state into immortality. But since it occurs when the resurrection of the actual dead occurs, we simply refer to it as the resurrection.
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I agree his flesh was not devine, but his blood line was from the Spirit right?
Blood comes from the body. there's a monkey wrench.
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If Jesus's flesh was divine ,then how could Christ have been able to give up the ghost ?
Divine flesh made another error. Divine flesh cannot decay. But Christ distinctly was said to rise so that corruption could not begin.

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Act 2:27 KJV Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
The prophecy would not say that His body would not be suffered to see corruption if it could not corrupt anyway. But the fact is that it would have seen corruption, and that is why that statement is made in conjunction with the statement that He would not be left in hell/grave. The first statement explains how the second statement came to pass. In other words, had He been left in the grave He would have seen corruption.
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Elder Blume in refuting FP did a wonderful article on the bodily resurrection of Christ and the church which is future.
To answer someone else YES Jesus is the Son of God NOW! And Bishop Johnson was wrong.

He wasn't the Son of God before his death?
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