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04-18-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron
One more thought.
While we have all of the important details in David's life that we needed to know, perhaps there were other incidents that are not listed?
After all, there does seem to be references in the KJV Bible to books we know very little of such as the book of Jasher.
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2 Sam 12:31
1 Chr. 20: 3
Maybe this has something to do with it. I personally find this horrifying. I hope David didn't condone this.
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04-18-2007, 10:38 AM
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Solomon was also a warrior king. I have always felt that the reason David was prohibited from building the temple was not that he was a man of war, but rather, he shed the innocent blood of Uriah the Hittite.
God sanctioned war through David; He never sanctioned the slaying of Uriah.
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This is also my belief.
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04-18-2007, 10:43 AM
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I think David's ego and pride got in the way of him having the privilege and honour of building the temple. Clearly he would have liked to have been the one to do that.
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04-18-2007, 11:09 AM
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Didn't he start numbering the children of Israel, which he wasn't supposed to do? It would seem to indicate that he was building himself a kingdom of his own.
II Sam. 24:1 "And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah."
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04-18-2007, 06:13 PM
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Didn't he start numbering the children of Israel, which he wasn't supposed to do? It would seem to indicate that he was building himself a kingdom of his own.
II Sam. 24:1 "And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah." |
Yes, he did, but he chose three days of pestilence as a punishment for that.
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04-18-2007, 06:18 PM
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Yes, he did, but he chose three days of pestilence as a punishment for that.
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Yes, he did. But, did God "move against" David because he knew what was in his heart? Power? Did He know that David would take war outside of what God wanted.
Remember, he took Bathsheba to be his. He is taking authority of his position which was wrong on his part - He felt entitled.
He was only a man after God's own heart, IMO, because even when he messed up, he was truly sorry and dealt with it. Perhaps God placed a hedge about him only because He knew his heart. He knew Saul's heart and put an end to his reign.
Just my thoughts.
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04-18-2007, 06:20 PM
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Yes, he did. But, did God "move against" David because he knew what was in his heart? Power? Did He know that David would take war outside of what God wanted.
Remember, he took Bathsheba to be his. He is taking authority of his position which was wrong on his part - He felt entitled.
He was only a man after God's own heart, IMO, because even when he messed up, he was truly sorry and dealt with it. Perhaps God placed a hedge about him only because He knew his heart. He knew Saul's heart and put an end to his reign.
Just my thoughts.
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Well....I dunno. But these are all food for thought.
Honestly if I knew David....all those wives and concubines....stealing a man's wife and murdering him....sawing people asunder, numbering the people.....I don't think I would like him at all. I guess he gives us all hope, eh?
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04-18-2007, 06:21 PM
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Well....I dunno. But these are all food for thought.
Honestly if I knew David....all those wives and concubines....stealing a man's wife and murdering him....sawing people asunder, numbering the people.....I don't think I would like him at all. I guess he gives us all hope, eh?
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Certainly does! He gives me hope and I haven't done half that!
Seriously, the reason that I say the "hedge" about him because God knew His heart. I have seen God do that in my very life when I wasn't strong enough alone. He choose to place a hedge about me. He didn't have to do it, but He did.
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04-18-2007, 06:26 PM
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What about this thought, perhaps God was going to allow David to have Bathsheba.
After all, casualtie rates were probably high, Uriah wasn't a coward by any stretch of the imagination.
He would have gone into the thick of the battle knowing the cost.
But because David tried to have his own way, God punished him,
just as he punished Moses by not letting him go into the promised land.
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04-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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Certainly does! He gives me hope and I haven't done half that!
Seriously, the reason that I say the "hedge" about him because God knew His heart. I have seen God do that in my very life when I wasn't strong enough alone. He choose to place a hedge about me. He didn't have to do it, but He did. |
What? You did 3/4's? 
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