Forsaking Jesus as a nation

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

The problem with your reasoning; You do not have adequate knowledge of how this nation came to be. This nation is a miracle, against all odds, GOD and not man established this country. Don't forget, this whole earth is His and He can do whatever He wants to with it.

Wrong! I know a whole lot more about the founding of this nation than you want to think. God does indeed set up nations and destroys nations in a general sense but it was not God who established the United States of America! The Constitution, the founding document of our not-so-little republic, is a decidedly secular document.

Some of the British colonies on the North American continent were, indeed, "Christian" colonies but those colonies were founded as colonies and NOT as the United States of America. Further, when the first amendment to the Constitution was proposed, it was based not on those "Christian" colonies but on colonies such as Rhode Island and Pennsylvania where religious freedom was already being practiced (the "Christian" colonies, e.g. Massachusetts, did not allow religious freedom; either you conformed to Puritan doctrine or you were not allowed to be part of the colony).

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Chan

Wrong! I know a whole lot more about the founding of this nation than you want to think. God does indeed set up nations and destroys nations in a general sense but it was not God who established the United States of America! The Constitution, the founding document of our not-so-little republic, is a decidedly secular document.

Some of the British colonies on the North American continent were, indeed, "Christian" colonies but those colonies were founded as colonies and NOT as the United States of America. Further, when the first amendment to the Constitution was proposed, it was based not on those "Christian" colonies but on colonies such as Rhode Island and Pennsylvania where religious freedom was already being practiced (the "Christian" colonies, e.g. Massachusetts, did not allow religious freedom; either you conformed to Puritan doctrine or you were not allowed to be part of the colony).

Seeing that you have been banned, it would almost seem unfair to respond. Not sure if you will ever read this or not, but I'll try Mr. Chan the history man. While I will not dispute the detailed points that you have presented, you seem to be missing the overall miracle. LITTLE OLE BRITISH COLONIES DEFEATED THE MAJOR SUPREME POWER OF ITS DAY!!!! Hello!!!! BTW, your boldened phrase isn't entirely true. What were you taught this in a secular school?