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Old 08-12-2009, 05:01 PM
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Re: H.R. 3200 The Real Deal

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Are you blind? Are you deaf? Obama's Dr. in Chicago is for single payer. This is another of your false statements.

Coadi do you have half a brain? Millions of doctors participate and receive payment from a socialized program alread in the US. It's called Medicare.
Ask how many doctors have stopped accepting medicare patients because the government is to slow to pay, to many rules.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:04 PM
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Re: H.R. 3200 The Real Deal

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Lies in the above quote are in red.

Are you blind? Are you deaf? Obama's Dr. in Chicago is for single payer. This is another of your false statements.

Coadi do you have half a brain? Millions of doctors participate and receive payment from a socialized program alread in the US. It's called Medicare.


812,770 docs.

How do you get "millions" out of this?

Exageration is a form of dishonesty. He also assumes all of the millions take Medicaire. Which is not exactly socialized medicine because I paid for mine myself. Out of the 7.65% employee withholding.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:07 PM
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Ask how many doctors have stopped accepting medicare patients because the government is to slow to pay, to many rules.
A lot of docs don't "take on new Medicare patients"

The government is difficult for reimbursement and cheats. By cheating we commonly see retroactive reductions in reimbursement. That is fraud but what can you do.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:08 PM
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Ask how many doctors have stopped accepting medicare patients because the government is to slow to pay, to many rules.
Also, the only pharmacy in this town closed due to insurance to slow to pay for the prescriptions. Owed him over 60,000.00!

CVS and the like might can handle thatkind of carrying of debt but an individual pharmacist can not.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:11 PM
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Re: H.R. 3200 The Real Deal

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Lies in the above quote are in red.

Are you blind? Are you deaf? Obama's Dr. in Chicago is for single payer. This is another of your false statements.

Coadi do you have half a brain? Millions of doctors participate and receive payment from a socialized program alread in the US. It's called Medicare.
You say he is for single payer?
Is this a single payer plan?

You get all tangled up. Don't get mad when you get all tangled up.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:15 PM
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Also, the only pharmacy in this town closed due to insurance to slow to pay for the prescriptions. Owed him over 60,000.00!

CVS and the like might can handle thatkind of carrying of debt but an individual pharmacist can not.
The chains get on an electronic funds transfer system. Little guys have no leverage. Insurance gets straightened out real quick if you have a customer and he has a card and you decline it because the insurance company owes. Health care folks are amiable and don't stand up to the hard ball tactics of the government and insurance. I know docs that have 1/4 of a million in the pipeline and not payed for.
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Please check out page 203 of the main House version of health care reform. It contains all the evidence you need that the entire bill is a nasty bait-and-switch.

"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax imposed by this chapter. ..."

Yes, it really says that. The tax shall not be considered a tax. Or at least not "... for purposes of determining the amount of any credit under this chapter or for purposes of Section 55."

Gee, that really clears things up. It is especially helpful to know that the bill itself does not even contain a Section 55; the bill begins with a section numbered 101. (Section 55 apparently refers to the Internal Revenue Code, which it wouldn't do if the health care bill were not a tax bill, too.)

The bill does contain new taxes -- plenty of them. Pages 167 and 168 impose an income tax of 2.5 percent on any individual who chooses not to buy government-approved health insurance. Pages 149-150 impose a tax of between 2 percent and 8 percent on the payrolls of all companies whose payrolls exceed $250,000. Pages 197 and 198 outline income tax surcharges to be imposed on individuals with incomes over $350,000, rising to a highest surcharge of 5.4 percent.

Meanwhile, as the bill specifically acknowledges imposing a tax
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Re: H.R. 3200 The Real Deal

Question: If all of these great bills are so good for the country and all of its citizens - why are our politicians exempt from compliance?

They are specifically exempt under Social Security provisions. I don't remember the exact section(s), but as most already know, our "leaders" have their own taxpayer funded retirement and health programs that a mere citizen can only dream about.

Check out all of the Social Security references in the bill.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:22 AM
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Re: H.R. 3200 The Real Deal

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Originally Posted by Light View Post

Lies in the above quote are in red.

Are you blind? Are you deaf? Obama's Dr. in Chicago is for single payer. This is another of your false statements.

Coadi do you have half a brain? Millions of doctors participate and receive payment from a socialized program alread in the US. It's called Medicare.
One small note here....
Medicare is bankrupt. we are on the hook for 56 TRILLION dollars of unfunded mandates related to Medicare over the next 30 years.....


Medicare is PROOF that this kind of governemnt socialist system is unsustainable.

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Old 08-13-2009, 09:28 AM
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Question: If all of these great bills are so good for the country and all of its citizens - why are our politicians exempt from compliance? Check out all of the Social Security references in the bill.

They are specifically exempt under Social Security provisions. I don't remember the exact section(s), but as most already know, our "leaders" have their own taxpayer funded retirement and health programs that a mere citizen can only dream about.
Executive privilege?

Now it is for their protection. They wouldn't want to join a queue that may include nazis, terrorists and misc. Hoi Polloi.

I picture the Federal pharmacy like the Post Office. Long lines and the clerks check out for lunch. Congressspeople have too much work to devote time in a queue.
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