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Old 08-11-2009, 11:41 PM
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Re: Universal Health Insurance & Abortion:

It's really amazing to me how so many can't see that all this "death panel" business is just a political misinformation tactic. The right wing wants us arguing over the buzz words "death panel" so that the American people don't hear the actual plans on the table without their spin doctors.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:45 PM
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It's really amazing to me how so many can't see that all this "death panel" business is just a political misinformation tactic. The right wing wants us arguing over the buzz words "death panel" so that the American people don't hear the actual plans on the table without their spin doctors.
Yeah it's easier to score political points and keep names in the spotlight(aka Palin) by reverting to the goofiness and "shock jock" stuff that scares people.

It's crazy the amount of people who will just take their word and never do an ounce of research into what is actually going on. Alot of those poor senior citizens who have about stroked out at these healthcare meetings have been whipped into a frenzy by Limbaugh, Hannity and the like and are scared to death.
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:52 PM
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Yeah it's easier to score political points and keep names in the spotlight(aka Palin) by reverting to the goofiness and "shock jock" stuff that scares people.

It's crazy the amount of people who will just take their word and never do an ounce of research into what is actually going on. Alot of those poor senior citizens who have about stroked out at these healthcare meetings have been whipped into a frenzy by Limbaugh, Hannity and the like and are scared to death.
It is crazy. Political conservatism appears to be in meltdown terrorizing the American people with outlandish propaganda. We all know that the plan being drafted by the liberals isn't perfect... but at least it's a plan and we can make changes where necessary as issues arise. It's becoming evident to most that we can't go down this road much longer without ruining the health and prosperity of our children and grandchildren.

That's why I've abandoned political conservatism. I'm more of a left leaning centrist when it comes to politics.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:50 AM
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Esther, the government doesn't have the employees or the resources to provide coverage AND become a health insurance monopoly. You've heard time and time again from advocates alike, it's a plan that will essentially extend the plans offered to those in Congress to EVERY American. Those in Congress are not covered by a big government system... they are covered by a private insurer. It's only subsidized by the Government like my plan because they are essentially government employees.

All this "death panel" stuff is misinformation from the right wing.

I'm a government employee... we're really concerned with this because essentially it could INCREASE my taxes and my premiums to lower your premiums so that the system will attain a balance.
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It's really amazing to me how so many can't see that all this "death panel" business is just a political misinformation tactic. The right wing wants us arguing over the buzz words "death panel" so that the American people don't hear the actual plans on the table without their spin doctors.
I'm sorry to bust your bubble but it is NOT misinformation. As I stated on some thread here, I heard a Senator that was a judge before he took the senate seat say that the way it is written right now, it could in fact be interpreted as a death panel that it needs to be clairified. So it is NOT about misinformation.

I'm amazed at the number of people, and I must admit they have ALL been young people have fallen for Obama's proproganda on this health care issue.

I agree our health care needs fixing, but not the way the government wants to fix it. The last thing we need is a government run health care. They can't even balance a budget and we want to turn something as important as our health care to a bunch of bureaucrats? NOT ME!

I hope America will wake up to the real agenda here.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:14 AM
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If they're going to mandate health insurance, they'd better lower the rates. My husband has insurance, but we can't afford to add me to his policy. It would cost more than our house payment.

I don't take a free ride, either. I just don't go to the doctor.
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It's really amazing to me how so many can't see that all this "death panel" business is just a political misinformation tactic. The right wing wants us arguing over the buzz words "death panel" so that the American people don't hear the actual plans on the table without their spin doctors.

: Obama lies about AARP endorsementBy Michelle Malkin • August 11, 2009 05:30 PM

President Obama assailed “wild misrepresentations” by his opponents at the Portsmouth town hall today.

But he wildly misrepresented his position on single payer.

And he wildly misrepresented the AARP’s position on Obamacare:
Obama gives Misinformation. He says AARP supports his plan. The say they don't. Why do you support Obama who provides misinformation?
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11...p-endorsement/

POTUS calling the Kettle black

I want the government to stop cranking out misinformation like Obama did. Who does he need to get reported to?
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:33 AM
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If they're going to mandate health insurance, they'd better lower the rates. My husband has insurance, but we can't afford to add me to his policy. It would cost more than our house payment.

I don't take a free ride, either. I just don't go to the doctor.
Government workers don't have that problem. I think Obama said a health plan for a family was running 13,000 dollars a year. If we mandate all small companies to furnish insurance we can see 2-3 million laid off. What problem does that solve?
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:43 AM
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I'm sorry to bust your bubble but it is NOT misinformation. As I stated on some thread here, I heard a Senator that was a judge before he took the senate seat say that the way it is written right now, it could in fact be interpreted as a death panel that it needs to be clairified. So it is NOT about misinformation.

I'm amazed at the number of people, and I must admit they have ALL been young people have fallen for Obama's proproganda on this health care issue.

I agree our health care needs fixing, but not the way the government wants to fix it. The last thing we need is a government run health care. They can't even balance a budget and we want to turn something as important as our health care to a bunch of bureaucrats? NOT ME!

I hope America will wake up to the real agenda here.
Is this just a knee-jerk reaction? You realize that private health insurance will still be available, just as it is today?
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:52 AM
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Is this just a knee-jerk reaction? You realize that private health insurance will still be available, just as it is today?
No, haven't you heard him say more than once they plan to get rid of the private health insurance? Even the woman from CA. can't remember her name said the same thing, and the crowd went wild. makes me wonder if Acorn was there???
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:17 AM
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No, haven't you heard him say more than once they plan to get rid of the private health insurance? Even the woman from CA. can't remember her name said the same thing, and the crowd went wild. makes me wonder if Acorn was there???
We can play videos all day where Obama says private insurance will be replaced by a federal plan only. Twisp won't believe it.
When people decieve themselves, it is over. They live in their own little neurotic fantasy.

Obama will give out a lot of drugs to the neurotics. Then they will dread losing federal Prescription coverage and free pills. ( of course the conservatives know the pills aren't free)
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