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07-29-2009, 11:55 AM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born
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It didn't expire according to the law.
The article was one of the liberal miscreant web sites and not the law.
The next false claim is your declaration. He never swore to be an American citizen. it is not a default activity
You keep spinning
Yes you are wrong. That is how i expose deception.
I check facts before i ask question.
Can you name a single person that lost citizenship by reason of turning 21?
I can point out how you make stuff up as you go.
You are saying if one hold a passport declaring citizen ship, the passport chages on the 21 st birthday.
So you say Obama's fight the smears is dishonest and factcheck was false also.
snopes is changing their story as you do.
Want me to post a little template how you change stories and twist facts to fit your feelings?
You have also told me that obama's own fightthesmears site is posting falsehoods.
That's the obama way. Like bush said, we needed a new Pres with character. I gues a bad character is character.
I will start a thread that outlines Obama's history/past. we can see how Obama has fudged/twisped on dates and events in his books.
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He was born in Hawaii, thus he is a natural born citizen.
The link you posted even said that he lost his Kenyan citizenship by default when he turned 21.
I have not changed my story. I said he was qualified and he still is.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, and thus far you are sorely lacking. And by lacking, I mean you have yet to show proof.
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07-29-2009, 12:05 PM
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Re: National Review Online Claims Obama US Born
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He was born in Hawaii, thus he is a natural born citizen.
The link you posted even said that he lost his Kenyan citizenship by default when he turned 21.
I have not changed my story. I said he was qualified and he still is.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, and thus far you are sorely lacking. And by lacking, I mean you have yet to show proof.
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You are not speaking the truth.
I posted a link showing Obama's claims. Some of them are true and some are lies. It is intentional dishonesty for you to project and say because I reaveal some partial truths from others that i reapeat them as being triuthfull
You need to divert your attack to obama. It is his fact check that admits he was under British law at birth. That part is true. The part of a change of citizenship by reason of turning 21 is not in any law I have seen.
Why don't you do some work and prove it.
ARe you still saying Obama posted lies on his own fighting the smears?
What is your story today? Want me to show another way you changed your story? You said he was natural born american citizen and then they come out and say it became citizen by default at age 21.
Clear up some of your own contradictions. Spin something.
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07-29-2009, 12:12 PM
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natural born British citiwen it says
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He was born in Hawaii, thus he is a natural born citizen.
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‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “
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http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9...rthcertificate
Under British nationality. I can read.
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07-29-2009, 12:22 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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That's great , but Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, which makes him a natural US citizen according to the constitution. That's not even taking into account that his mother was a US citizen also.
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07-29-2009, 12:29 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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That's great , but Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, which makes him a natural US citizen according to the constitution. That's not even taking into account that his mother was a US citizen also.
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‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “
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http://www.fightthesmears.com.php5-9...rthcertificate
Under British nationality. I can read.
Can you explain the process Obama went thru in order to change his citizen ship as he claims from British under his dad's to american?
Yes or no?
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07-29-2009, 12:46 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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Citizenship by descent.
5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:
It doesn't exclude born in HI.
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07-29-2009, 12:55 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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Did you not read the link that YOU posted? His dual-citizenship with Kenya expired when he turned 21. Kenya does not allow dual-citizenship from adults. Read the links you post from now on.
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07-29-2009, 01:06 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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Did you not read the link that YOU posted? His dual-citizenship with Kenya expired when he turned 21. Kenya does not allow dual-citizenship from adults. Read the links you post from now on.
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I did read.
Renunciation of citizenship by reason of dual citizenship or nationality.
19.—(1) If any citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies of full age and capacity who is also—
(a) a citizen of any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act or of Eire; or
(b) a national of a foreign country,
makes a declaration in the prescribed manner of renunciation of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the Secretary of State shall cause the declaration to be registered; and, upon the registration, that person shall cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies:
Did obama make a declaration? Come on make something up. Give us dates.
(the exception is if he went to jail for a year elswhere.)
You said what obama claimed was false, then you swithced. Then you agree with what obama added and I lloked up british naturalization law.
Another test for deception. Stories change and Information is added.
It seems you have problems with obama's factcheck? His money.
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07-29-2009, 01:13 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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I did read.
Renunciation of citizenship by reason of dual citizenship or nationality.
19.—(1) If any citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies of full age and capacity who is also—
(a) a citizen of any country mentioned in subsection (3) of section one of this Act or of Eire; or
(b) a national of a foreign country,
makes a declaration in the prescribed manner of renunciation of citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies, the Secretary of State shall cause the declaration to be registered; and, upon the registration, that person shall cease to be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies:
Did obama make a declaration? Come on make something up. Give us dates.
(the exception is if he went to jail for a year elswhere.)
You said what obama claimed was false, then you swithced. Then you agree with what obama added and I lloked up british naturalization law.
Another test for deception. Stories change and Information is added.
It seems you have problems with obama's factcheck? His money.
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Again, from your link:
But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Since Obama did not renounce his American citizenship, he automatically lost his Keynan dual-citizenship at the age of 21.
You should proofread your offerings to this thread more.
Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This is settled for the government and the majority of the population.
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07-29-2009, 01:30 PM
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Re: natural born British citiwen it says
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Again, from your link:
But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Since Obama did not renounce his American citizenship, he automatically lost his Keynan dual-citizenship at the age of 21.
You should proofread your offerings to this thread more.
Again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. This is settled for the government and the majority of the population.
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More silliness. How do you renounce something you do not have?
Stop making things up. When you are born, there is no requirement to make an oath of citizenship.
More deception. "proof on the accuser" Obama is the one that said he was born to a British citizen. There was no accusation.
Take it up with obama. You seem to have issues with what he posted and then put a silly spin on it for him
1 Obama posted he was born under british
2 You bring up dual citizenship. Where did that come from Indonesia??
3 Ooops, while you are spinning, he was Indonesian by reason of adoption.
4 Every time you bring up something, something else pops up.
Your general education seems to place limits on ya. That is not good.
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
Here is the law I quote instead of pulling it out of the air like your democrat style calls for.
Don't work to hard at the fast food joint.
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