uh...murder is murder, hatred is hatred...these are timeless sins which transcend culture, time & evolutionary principles. One does not murder as he moves closer to Christ. Now if you're talking about dress codes...well that's different...lol
Basically you are saying that the prosecuting attorney who pushes for the death penalty or someone who turns in a criminal is a murderer. Heresy was punishable by death under the law of the day.
Basically you are saying that the prosecuting attorney who pushes for the death penalty or someone who turns in a criminal is a murderer. Heresy was punishable by death under the law of the day.
he lured him there under false pretenses. christians should disobey the law when it contradicts the word
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
What would you have done in his day? Where would you come down on issues he dealt with?
**Knee jerk reaction***
Are you sure? How do you know you would not be subject to the culture and predominate thought of the day?
**knee jerk reaction***
More important. How do you know that 500 years from now that good people on a "forum" will look back at YOU and judge you for your ignorance and error. How do you know we are walking in all truth?
**knee jerk reaction**
Do you really think that God has fully revealed the "riches of his grace" when Paul wrote it will take "ages to come." Consider what WE may be lacking? What if some future group comes up with a doctrine they consider salvic? Will they look back at YOU and judge saying, "well they went to hell, too bad but if they really sought God he would have shown even them THE WAY."
**Knee jerk reaction***
It is only the most arrogant who look at history and judge people by current culture and by current theology. Both culture and theology are fluid and will change at the rise of the next figure who comes with "a powerful message." That message will impact...change, be formed into doctrine....become exclusive and corrupt...turn into no relevance....die....Until the rise of the next "progressive" thinker....and on an on.
hypothetical: You are behind the iron curtain 2 decades ago. You come to the conclusion Jesus is Lord. It's illegal to be a bible believing Christian let alone own one...
you A) obey the law of the day
B) disobey because a real christian obeys God not man
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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BTW, Calvin was the holiness movement of his day. He was the WPF of his day except he taught grace. Maybe that is why you don't like him staysharp because he was too holiness for you.
Calvin was a rigid religionist who killed someone who did not agree with him.
Didn't the rigid religionists kill Jesus because He disagreed with them?
Don't rigid religionists (both trinity and oneness) "kill" those who disagree with them in 2009?
I had a Calvinst(4 point or what ever, I dunno) on another forum stick up for John Calvin and state his actions were a product of the times.
I think he reacted out of fear. Over a discrepancy of the Godhead and beliefs. I don't know where Jesus gave the command to kill people who disagree with you.
His actions were not reflective of the character of God. Has nothing to do with the times.
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