A Chg of Plea to Guilty by Former UPC PastorHuling

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by whocanitbe

It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.

I am ever so thankful that God has brought you to a place of healing. But before you try to rebuke Sister Alvear about her opinions, without seeming to know much about her ministry. This special lady has ministered in the jungles of Brazil since she was a young girl. Her ministry speaks for itself. She has seen more of the great big world than you probably will in your lifetime. And we are all entitled to our opinions.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I am ever so thankful that God has brought you to a place of healing. But before you try to rebuke Sister Alvear about her opinions, without seeming to know much about her ministry. This special lady has ministered in the jungles of Brazil since she was a young girl. Her ministry speaks for itself. She has seen more of the great big world than you probably will in your lifetime. And we are all entitled to our opinions.

Yep, gotta agree with you on this one Granny!

[oletime]

Originally Posted by whocanitbe

It is quite evident that those who have negative opinions about my posting this think only of their own level of comfort regarding this matter. Do you truly think that those who are "hurt" will be swayed by this information? And if they are, won't they answer to God for their own decisions? Did Jesus protect people from negative information regarding crimes of this matter? Did he not preach that it was better that a millstone be hung around the necks of one who would hurt a little one?

Even Jesus shared examples and made examples of Pharisees, in particular. I sat under this man's ministry for YEARS. I loved him, I believed in him. You think about how people may be hurt. . .ask me about my family members who will now make mockery of the things of God due to this man's actions.

Maybe God would have you to spend some time in intercession for his Godly wife who sits with an entire life of ministry in ruins. I added no negative connotations to my post. I copied and pasted the docket entry, it spoke for itself. We DESERVE to know the TRUTH, isn't that what Jesus was all about? THE TRUTH!

I have a right to have my time of pain, my healing and an opportunity to share in this open forum.

Apostolic friends you say? I often wonder. I do have some Apostolic friends, but I would say more often then not I run into Apostolic snakes, vipers and hypocrites. You can now add pastor Huling to the list. I am human, I get to have feelings, God made me like that. It's OK to feel, to think, to vent, to "deal". I learned that after disassociating from the UPC.

I learned that God was loving and wanted me to truly have life more abundantly and I finally learned what grace was. I love my friends who remain and I thank God for bringing me to the place I am now and for where He is leading me.

I would implore you to get outside of your own minds, your own comfort zones, and empathize, for a moment with the many kinds of people and many real life situations that are out there.

Mrs. Bratti, thanks for the backing and for understanding.

Brothers and Sisters who disagree, you need to step outside into the great big world, disengage your heads from the sand and look around you, it will help you be much more effective in your ministries.

sis or bro if you had said you were a victim, do i assume of him? then i or all who saw this would understand. im sorry, i can think of no worse burden! or sin for that matter! just dont throw the baby out with the bath water? its not the upc or any org [that doesnt try to cover it ] and transfer it as we have seen happen? its that person and they are in every org. unfortunately.sin knows no boundries! GOD BLESS!

[whocanitbe]

Make no mistake, I was not admonishing Sis Alvear or pointing to any "one" person in particular, I humbly apologize if it seemed that way. And PUH-LEASE Ron, I am not "hiding" nor am I as fake as a $3 bill. I only hope we don't face such trite things at the judgment. . . .geez.

Yes, we are all human, and all entitled to opinions, I agree. . . but just because one's opinion does not match your own, does not make it fundamentally wrong. Make sense?

Lisa in Joplin-for those who must know!

[Timmy]

I hope more of these criminals will be caught and brought to justice. There are very likely more of them out there. Perhaps their victims will be encouraged by news like this to speak out, and someone who may not have seen the news in the usual outlets may read it here on this forum. If nothing else, that alone justifies posting it, IMO.

Thank you, Lisa.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by whocanitbe

Make no mistake, I was not admonishing Sis Alvear or pointing to any "one" person in particular, I humbly apologize if it seemed that way. And PUH-LEASE Ron, I am not "hiding" nor am I as fake as a $3 bill. I only hope we don't face such trite things at the judgment. . . .geez.

Yes, we are all human, and all entitled to opinions, I agree. . . but just because one's opinion does not match your own, does not make it fundamentally wrong. Make sense?

Lisa in Joplin-for those who must know!

I apologize if I mistook your post as an admonishment of Sis. Alvear. Glad to meet you Lisa, I am Cindy from Texas. And truly grateful that you have found healing and peace in this lifetime. That is rare in this situation.

[Sister Alvear]

yes, please forgive me I meant no harm at all...I know much more about these things than many because I have raised children that were abused and dealt with circumstances that could not be put on a forum...I deeply understand...the pain...I have sat nights with the abused and wept with them...
I think I understood the post wrong from the beginning...I really thought it was just gossip...please forgive me...I stay in such a hurry sometimes I don't catch on...sorry...

[Sister Alvear]

I am not UPC so I really do not know this so called pastor or anyone involved...I spoke without thinking about something I KNOW nothing about...

[whocanitbe]

Thank you for being open to realizing that not all "lurkers" are here to attack or cause conflict.

I lurk here on a consistent basis. I must chew up the meat and spit out the bones, just like I have to with any information I take in on any given subject. Likewise, I realize that I alone am responsible for "working out my own salvation" so I don't let ridiculous banter trip me up, if I can help it. Again, I am human and I am WOMAN, enough said! lol

I can assure you of one thing, had I not come into the UPC in a military setting in Europe, but here in the states, given the examples I have seen stateside, I never could have justified aligning myself with the UPC movement. That is not a "dis" to all, but a statement of the overwhelming example I have observed over the years since 1991 when I first sat under an Exploring God's Word Bible Study.

Every time this stuff comes up with Bro. Huling I get another knot in my stomach, flashbacks of sorts. I was raised by alcoholics, married the HS sweetheart baptist preacher's son. . . .we became UPC first year married and he had ISSUES. . .let's just say I should have left the marriage a good decade before I did, I will spare you the details, but the brow beating and insecurity I had from sitting under UPC ministries that would have told me to "stick it out" and fear of possibly causing my lost family to never know the Lord kept me in a horrible situation. . . . I am glad to tell you I am free of all of that today. I am remarried to a wonderful Godly man and my life is full of peace and joy, even with 3 teenagers in a blended family, now THAT, my friend, is a miracle in it's own right! lol

I think of pastor Huling strutting across the stage, yelling, screaming, preaching, telling us how wicked we were, how sick and twisted the world was, speaking of illicit sexual things and "honkey tonks" and always tucked in, V shaped, still worked out to keep himself in good physical condition. . .all while this is what was happening!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHh It makes me sick to my stomach. I let my child play in the yard with him when I went to lunch at their home. . . .OH GOD, what if? what if? what if? I had him in my home, he married my sister and her first husband, you have no idea!

Gossip? Some would say gossip? You have no idea friends, NO IDEA, what happens inside of you when a person you esteemed at the level I esteemed this man FULLY ADMITS to doing such things. Go to www.joplinglobe.com, read the disgusting details. The docket entry I posted is NOTHING compared to the details of what he did to this, now broken and violated little girl. I know the little girl, I do, I saw her in town recently, my heart sank. She's suffered tremendous physical ills due to the stress and tension. My own daughter is 12. . . .It sickens me. Then there's sister Huling, I love her. I cannot reach out to her, how can I help?

All of these thoughts go through your mind. I know, I know, this is not the place. If this is not the place, then where is the place? The same place I stayed trapped in in my marriage to my SUPER SPIRITUAL ex husband while he ran, spoke in tongues and brought home what it took to cause positive STD tests? That place, is that where I should go back to?

I have shared more than I ever intended and this is just the tip of the ice burg. I hope it paints a clearer picture for some folks rather than just people thinking this is some sort of "smear campaign".

Lisa

[Ron]

Originally Posted by whocanitbe

Make no mistake, I was not admonishing Sis Alvear or pointing to any "one" person in particular, I humbly apologize if it seemed that way. And PUH-LEASE Ron, I am not "hiding" nor am I as fake as a $3 bill. I only hope we don't face such trite things at the judgment. . . .geez.

Yes, we are all human, and all entitled to opinions, I agree. . . but just because one's opinion does not match your own, does not make it fundamentally wrong. Make sense?

Lisa in Joplin-for those who must know!

Well PUH-LEASE Lisa, a lot of people come on here behind anonymous monikers
posting things about men of God both true & false!
I ask you this question, "what was the purpose of posting this?"
There are Ministers in every denomination who cheat on thier wives, a few are probably pedophiles, & a few even get innocently accused.

There was a sister in our District who worked in a daycare & was falsely accused of abusing kids.
The police investigated her like crazy & put her through the wringer, she even took a lie detector test!
She was cleared, but not before her reputation was ruined (even though she was exonerated) & never came through it totally.

Why did I say that, "what do you hope or anyone who posts things of that nature, hope to accomplish?"
Does one hope to diminish the Ministry more than it already has?

If anything has happened to you, I am very sorry it has & hope that you can find healing & forgiveness & move on because to do other wise, shortchanges you.

Yes, I have an opinion thqat is different than others.
I did know through someone else a Huling, don't know if they are the same one or related, it has been so long ago.

I ask you this in closing, what if the friends or loved ones of this man come on here & see this post?
Are they not hurting too?

Some things to consider.