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Old 06-15-2009, 07:35 PM
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Re: Ron Paul wants to audit the Fed

No slagging on Texans or Texans. They're friendly, quite hospitable, and have a knack for producing the best barbecue on the planet. If two countries are contemplating war with each other, invite them to a Texas barbecue. You can't be angry with someone after having consumed a plateful of ribs, some slaw, and a few scoops of ice cream with chocolate sauce.

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I don't really know what he would do with - say - Iran.

I know what he'd do with Iran: he would let Iran bomb Israel. That's why I didn't choose him in the California primary.
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:42 AM
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I know, Digging. I was telling the poster what was being said and also saying that I don't know how he would deal with foreign affairs. I don't really know what he would do with - say - Iran.

Maybe you could explain that. Isn't that their main beef - foreign policy. And what about the gold standard? There was some issue on that as well.

Iron it out for us.
First thing... and I know you aren't saying this... but Ron Paul is not an idiot. He is aware that things will take time to bring to pass and some things may never come to pass. You just start pressing in the right direction.

On foreign policy. We are not to police the world. We cannot.... we should not... we can't afford it... It doesn't work. It doesn't help. It doesn't change things. It only makes countries angry with us. It is an idiotic approach by which we kill our own economy while accomplishing little to nothing in the end.

We have relationships with nations. We have talks with nations. But at the end of the day we are not the World Police. After all of the American lives that have been spent in Iran... after all the trillions that have been spent in Iran... have we fixed anything?

For those who would say yes... first.... good grief..... second. This is what I call fixed. When we pull out of there... if we ever pull out of there... how long do you think that country will keep it's sanity?

You can't force an Arab country to think like America. They are who they are and no stack of trillions of dollars... no tank... no bunker buster... no torture camp... nothing is going to change that.

And yet we still act like it is the end all do all to our duty as Americans.

And these people call Ron Paul crazy.

On the gold standard... Ron Paul isn't an idiot. Ron Paul knows that this country is so far gone beyond any semblance living within it's means that to say... tomorrow we start living within our means... would destroy us. Ron Paul wants to allow competition with the Federal Reserve Note. The same way UPS is in competition with the USPS.

When there is choice the market makes the decisions (as long as government doesn't start meddling with the market as it is want to do)

The things Ron Paul wants to do will take years... multiple administrations... to accomplish because we are so far off the beaten path. Ron Paul wants to get rid of government welfare (both corporate welfare and welfare for the citizens) but you can't just jump in on day one and jerk welfare out from under the American people. This takes a process...

All of the things that Ron Paul runs on and believes in are things that will take time... much time... change... much change... resolve... much resolve. People pick one and gripe about how impossible it is to do this... now. Of course it is... good thing Ron Paul isn't an idiot then... isn't it.

Some of those plans... maybe many of those plans... might never come to full fruition. But the thing is that we will have begun a reversal of a process that demands..... utterly demands... the complete and total destruction of the American economy... and possibly... American in it's entirety.

To all that I say... Go Ron Paul....
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Old 06-16-2009, 08:42 AM
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Thanks for taking the time, Digging! You are right - it would take a very long time. The thing that struck me when I met him - his enduring patience! Total contrast to Obama's "hurry up and get this passed, hurry up, hurry up....!" That right there should be raising red flags.

Thought you might be interested in this article, part 1 of 3:

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Drowning in Cash, Chinese Foreign Investment: Who, What and Why--Part 1 of 3

http://www.heritage.org//Press/Commentary/ed061509d.cfm
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:11 AM
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Some have said his foreign policy won't work because it make us isolationists. I haven't quite got a handle on his whole take. We know we have businesses overseas, that makes us a global entity, right off the bat. Not sure, how that would work for us.
Yeah I hear that criticism a lot but it's just not true.

He's against giving your tax money to other countries and getting involved in other counties internal affairs. He doesn't think the US should be the policeman for the world or be as involved in the UN. I think those are some very good ideas. He's for trade and diplomatic relations with all countries that want the same. He's not an isolationist.

Here's a video of Ron Paul talking about isolationism:

"Isolationism is something I don't endorse" 3:00


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Old 06-18-2009, 11:31 AM
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Yeah I hear that criticism a lot but it's just not true.

He's against giving your tax money to other countries and getting involved in other counties internal affairs. He doesn't think the US should be the policeman for the world or be as involved in the UN. I think those are some very good ideas. He's for trade and diplomatic relations with all countries that want the same. He's not an isolationist.

Here's a video of Ron Paul talking about isolationism:

"Isolationism is something I don't endorse" 3:00

I've heard him speak about the isolationist point. It does explain his stance a little more.

As to being involved in the affairs of other countries. I read a very interesting piece today. I'll give the "spoiler" at the end of the article, but I think it's a must read.

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So NOW What’s Going on in Iran?


Which is why I have a limited sympathy for Obama’s efforts to say nothing much, even though I don’t like it, and I think it’s a mistake on his own grounds. As I said last time, it’s wrong to think that your chances of getting a deal from your enemy is enhanced if you appease him. Reagan got lots of deals from the Soviet Union, even though he denounced it most every day.

As Obama discovered just today, America will be accused of meddling on behalf of freedom, even if we do nothing. And the accusation will have been true, in the most fundamental sense, even though the State Department raced to deny it. We are the symbol of freedom in the modern world, and those fighting for freedom against tyrants will intuitively invoke our name and our Constitution in their struggle. They are right, for the very existence of America threatens the legitimacy of the tyrants.

We meddle because we exist.


http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledee...ng-on-in-iran/
He has a point....
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