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Old 05-08-2009, 05:34 PM
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Re: You Be The Judge: Afp1996 vs Jason

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Jesus is coming again and the Preterists can't stop Him.

Maranatha!
Uh, Elderest,

Most fulfilled prophecy people DO believe that Jesus is coming back again, it is how He is coming that is the controversy!
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Old 05-08-2009, 07:02 PM
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Jesus is coming again and the Preterists can't stop Him.

Maranatha!
Brother Epley, you remind me of Baalim. Everytime you open your mouth to curse us, God fills it with the Truth!

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Old 05-08-2009, 09:28 PM
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Brother Epley, you remind me of Baalim. Everytime you open your mouth to curse us, God fills it with the Truth!

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Of Chaldee origin (meaning our Lord has come); maranatha, that is, an exclamation of the approaching divine judgment: - Maran-atha.


Whoops!

I am sure that Epley will pull a song out of the "Sing Unto the Lord" songbook to counter this one!
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:42 AM
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Uh, Elderest,

Most fulfilled prophecy people DO believe that Jesus is coming back again, it is how He is coming that is the controversy!
They do NOT believe He is coming again. Death is not the return of Christ.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:44 AM
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Brother Epley, you remind me of Baalim. Everytime you open your mouth to curse us, God fills it with the Truth!

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Now the man is teaching Greek I reject your lexigrapher skills.
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Old 05-09-2009, 05:32 AM
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Now the man is teaching Greek I reject your lexigrapher skills.
Don't just reject it, counter it with something that is more than your opinion. Your opinion means no more than his. If what he is using is Strongs then he is not teaching Greek, all he is doing is quoting what has been written. What are you basing your opinion on?

Sorry Elder, a song book really is not a scholarly work.
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They do NOT believe He is coming again. Death is not the return of Christ.
Your opinion sir, your opinion!

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Matt. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Jesus referred to this paragraph, as well as other verses, when He immediately followed it to describe "somewhat within years", but not the "exact hour", that all these spoken of happenings would take place, in verse 34:



Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.


I believe Jesus spoke it to them in plane language so that those listening would understand the approximate when. Is it reasonable to think that those listening to Him would think that He meant 1000's of years till all these previously mentioned things would happen, when He said their generation would NOT pass before it ALL happened? I personally dont think so. How in the world could they have thought that?
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Matt. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Jesus referred to this paragraph, as well as other verses, when He immediately followed it to describe "somewhat within years", but not the "exact hour", that all these spoken of happenings would take place, in verse 34:



Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.


I believe Jesus spoke it to them in plane language so that those listening would understand the approximate when. Is it reasonable to think that those listening to Him would think that He meant 1000's of years till all these previously mentioned things would happen, when He said their generation would NOT pass before it ALL happened? I personally dont think so. How in the world could they have thought that?
There you go again Shag, using PLANE Scriptures to validate your conclusions!

Just pickin'.

Bro Epley will answer out of "Sing unto the Lord" songbook, pg xx. There, it states that "The days are swifly passing, things are happening every day, the signs of His return are everywhere,"....

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Re: You Be The Judge: Afp1996 vs Jason

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Matt. 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


Jesus referred to this paragraph, as well as other verses, when He immediately followed it to describe "somewhat within years", but not the "exact hour", that all these spoken of happenings would take place, in verse 34:



Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.


I believe Jesus spoke it to them in plane language so that those listening would understand the approximate when. Is it reasonable to think that those listening to Him would think that He meant 1000's of years till all these previously mentioned things would happen, when He said their generation would NOT pass before it ALL happened? I personally dont think so. How in the world could they have thought that?
Shag, isn't it easy to understand prophecy when you take it for what it says? Good post!
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