I just noticed on google former Dr. -- Mr. Vaughn

[n david]

Originally Posted by Glenda B

I followed some of his posts when he was here, I guess I missed what happened to cause everyone to form this opinion of him.

And If you think I look silly, that's fine with me Aby. This is such a critical forum. Sister Ruth Harvy's name has been trashed as has Bro. Stoneking and I find that very damaging to each of their characters and ministry. It really bothers me very much when I see this.

I'm out of the loop on this issue, however with RH and LS, it's not so much their persons as their message that has been "trashed." I doubt anyone would argue that both RH and LS are good people ... it's just their message on Magic Hair is terribly wrong.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Glenda B

I followed some of his posts when he was here, I guess I missed what happened to cause everyone to form this opinion of him.

And If you think I look silly, that's fine with me Aby. This is such a critical forum. Sister Ruth Harvy's name has been trashed as has Bro. Stoneking and I find that very damaging to each of their characters and ministry. It really bothers me very much when I see this.

Glenda,

This forum discussing issues - I don't believe anyone has trashed Bro. Stoneking or Sis. Harvey, but they have questioned some of what they are preaching/teaching. There is a difference.

We allow freedom of discussion on issues so you aren't always going to like what you read, but that doesn't keep it from being relevant. Computers have changed the landscape - - things aren't hidden as much as they use to be.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Glenda B

Bro Epley, I trust you to be one of the finest christian men, and if you say this I will not doubt it. I have been to Foxworth to Bro. and Sister Terrells church several times. They are a great couple. She has got to be an angel for the responsibility she took upon herself when she married Bro. Terrell.
Thank's for verifying this for me.
I didn't intend to log back on, but I did want to respond to your post.

Sister Gatlin now Terrell is one of the finest people I have known. Steel isn't as tough as her.

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I have known his grandmother as long as I can remember and his uncle. They are fine folks. This casts no stones in their way. He just can't tell the truth. I tried to defend his credibility NOT his stupid doctrine but got egg on my face he is habitual.

It appears that you have a habit of trying to defend wrong positions Elder E, kind of like trying to defend dispensationalism!!!

[DividedThigh]

for some people the truth is a variable, how sad, dt

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Glenda B

I followed some of his posts when he was here, I guess I missed what happened to cause everyone to form this opinion of him.

And If you think I look silly, that's fine with me Aby. This is such a critical forum. Sister Ruth Harvy's name has been trashed as has Bro. Stoneking and I find that very damaging to each of their characters and ministry. It really bothers me very much when I see this.

Oh, I don't think my remark about silliness was anymore critical than your post--was it?

My point was simply to do research and know what you're talking about before you jump in the fray. Otherwise, you may stick your foot in your mouth...or hand in the keyboard--however that translates to the written word.

I don't think that Ruth Harvey's name has been trashed, as much as the organization has been criticized for seeming to endorse her teachings. In fact, I recognize her simple right to interpret scripture to the best of her ability, and live what she thinks is right. However, when she teaches her interpretations to the entire congregation (or potentially the entire organization), then it is no longer personal, but of interest to a wide number of people. The interest is still not really in Ruth Harvey, but in the pastors, leaders and organizations who will allow a false teaching to continue unchecked or unquestioned.

One thing I like about this forum is that everyone expects people to back up what they say. Whether it's scripture to back up a belief or a document to back up the claim of a degree. While annoying to some, it actually produces a purer conversation, IMO, because people (usually) won't talk unless they can really back themselves up--or at least think they can.

No one gets away with saying, "It's that way just because I say so."

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Glenda B

Bro Epley, I trust you to be one of the finest christian men, and if you say this I will not doubt it. I have been to Foxworth to Bro. and Sister Terrells church several times. They are a great couple. She has got to be an angel for the responsibility she took upon herself when she married Bro. Terrell.
Thank's for verifying this for me.
I didn't intend to log back on, but I did want to respond to your post.

That says a lot of your opinion of everyone else.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh, I don't think my remark about silliness was anymore critical than your post--was it?

My point was simply to do research and know what you're talking about before you jump in the fray. Otherwise, you may stick your foot in your mouth...or hand in the keyboard--however that translates to the written word.

I don't think that Ruth Harvey's name has been trashed, as much as the organization has been criticized for seeming to endorse her teachings. In fact, I recognize her simple right to interpret scripture to the best of her ability, and live what she thinks is right. However, when she teaches her interpretations to the entire congregation (or potentially the entire organization), then it is no longer personal, but of interest to a wide number of people. The interest is still not really in Ruth Harvey, but in the pastors, leaders and organizations who will allow a false teaching to continue unchecked or unquestioned.

One thing I like about this forum is that everyone expects people to back up what they say. Whether it's scripture to back up a belief or a document to back up the claim of a degree. While annoying to some, it actually produces a purer conversation, IMO, because people (usually) won't talk unless they can really back themselves up--or at least think they can.

No one gets away with saying, "It's that way just because I say so."

Except parents!

[Glenda B]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Oh, I don't think my remark about silliness was anymore critical than your post--was it?

My point was simply to do research and know what you're talking about before you jump in the fray. Otherwise, you may stick your foot in your mouth...or hand in the keyboard--however that translates to the written word.

I don't think that Ruth Harvey's name has been trashed, as much as the organization has been criticized for seeming to endorse her teachings. In fact, I recognize her simple right to interpret scripture to the best of her ability, and live what she thinks is right. However, when she teaches her interpretations to the entire congregation (or potentially the entire organization), then it is no longer personal, but of interest to a wide number of people. The interest is still not really in Ruth Harvey, but in the pastors, leaders and organizations who will allow a false teaching to continue unchecked or unquestioned.

One thing I like about this forum is that everyone expects people to back up what they say. Whether it's scripture to back up a belief or a document to back up the claim of a degree. While annoying to some, it actually produces a purer conversation, IMO, because people (usually) won't talk unless they can really back themselves up--or at least think they can.

No one gets away with saying, "It's that way just because I say so."

Well said young Aby......you have well put this senior citizen in her place.

[Glenda B]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That says a lot of your opinion of everyone else.

Well Prax, if you say so......LOL