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Old 01-22-2009, 05:54 PM
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BTW she is a filipina
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:57 PM
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She didn't write the article nor was she the economic adviser who made the quote
Yes, I fully understand that.

I was responding to Michelle Malkin's comments on the issue:
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Commentator Michelle Malkin said Reich's statements expose "the lie that the Obama administration is actually interested in revitalizing basic infrastructure for the good of the economy."
"No, what Team Obama really wants is to ensure that the least skilled, least qualified workers get jobs based on their chromosomes and pigment," she said.
Malkin cited Reich's own blog, where the Obama adviser wrote of the economic stimulus plan: "I'd suggest that all contracts entered into with stimulus funds require contractors to provide at least 20 percent of jobs to the long-term unemployed and to people with incomes at or below 200 percent of the federal poverty level."

This, Malkin wrote, is "spoken like a true-blue wealth redistributor. The 'needs' (read: demands) of politically protected minorities trump the need for competently build roads and bridges."
Which is why I said:

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I consider Michelle Malkin a borderline racist anyway... (and that's putting it nicely).

To me, that undermines anything she has to say on race-related issues.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:59 PM
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BTW she is a filipina
Ok.
and that's significant why?
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Yes, I fully understand that.

I was responding to Michelle Malkin's comments on the issue:


Which is why I said:
And through it all, no one seems to remember that it was Robert Reich who plundered $10's of millions of dollars from Citibank when he served as a director and board member. Then he went to the Democratic controlled Congress to seek a bail out for Citibank to cover losses his personal greed and poor management caused.

Why are tax payers having to pony up the millions that Reich stole from the bank? And why do we listen to this guy's advice about any issue?

He's just another rich white guy living off of the public dole. He should be in jail.
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:06 PM
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IF she is a racist she is an equal opportunity racist who hates all races but whites..Does that make sense?

I read some stuff. She sounds like a conservatie. And by conservative I mean fiscally, socially...everything...freedom of speech.

There are people that will label you a racist if you think we need better border security.

She sounds like a "Nationalist" more than a "racist"
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And through it all, no one seems to remember that it was Robert Reich who plundered $10's of millions of dollars from Citibank when he served as a director and board member. Then he went to the Democratic controlled Congress to seek a bail out for Citibank to cover losses his personal greed and poor management caused.

Why are tax payers having to pony up the millions that Reich stole from the bank? And why do we listen to this guy's advice about any issue?

He's just another rich white guy living off of the public dole. He should be in jail.
Exactly
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Ok.
and that's significant why?
Because, being non-white herself she is automatically free from any hint of racism. Those are the rules that apply to Joseph Lowrey and they should apply to Malkin equally.

BTW - maybe I missed it but I didn't find any link to VDARE on Malikn's site. Your charges of racism - as they stand now - are substantiated so far only by your statement, "I don't remember..."

Is it unfair for me to speculate that maybe you don't like Filipinos?
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:18 PM
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Vdare responds to the charge of being White Nationlists

http://www.vdare.com/pb/060724_vdare.htm
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Old 01-22-2009, 06:49 PM
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IF she is a racist she is an equal opportunity racist who hates all races but whites..Does that make sense?
Actually, Prax, you're not making a lot of sense here.

Are you serious? There are a lot of people who dislike other races apart from whites or whatever race/races they prefer.

3 examples from my personal experience/interactions:

I personally heard a remark made by a hispanic man, who clearly did not like blacks, although he has no problem with with whites people.

I also had a former co-worker who's black, and is married to an Asian woman but he's stated plainly he does not like white people.

I also know of a young white man who said he's ok with all other races, but dislikes the Indian people who live in his town.

Some people are prejudiced toward some races, but not all. Did you not know that?

I dont know where you live, but I've spent most of my life in New York City, probably the most racially diverse city in America, so I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to this stuff.

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I read some stuff. She sounds like a conservatie. And by conservative I mean fiscally, socially...everything...freedom of speech.

There are people that will label you a racist if you think we need better border security.

She sounds like a "Nationalist" more than a "racist"
I dont know why you feel the need to defend Malkin, and try to convince me that she's not really a racist.

Call her whatever you want.
I know what I call people like her.

I'm also smart enough that many conservatives, whether they be writers, or talk show hosts, know that being outwardly, blatantly racist does not play well in today's society. But when you listen to enough of their "conservative", "nationalistic" talk long enough, it's not hard to figure out where they're coming from, or what audience they're trying to appeal to with some of the things they're saying.

There are a lot of conservatives I've been listeing to and reading for years now (like Hannity, Ingram, Levin, Sullivan, Novak etc) who I dontconsider racist at all, and they dontsay the kind of the racially inflammatory things Malkin's been known to say. I know what race-baiting is. I've heard and read enough of her stuff long enough to know what I'm talking about.

If you want to call her a "nationalist", fine. Suit yourself, Prax.

But I've found that most of the time, if it smells like a rat, its a rat.
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:21 PM
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Because, being non-white herself she is automatically free from any hint of racism. Those are the rules that apply to Joseph Lowrey and they should apply to Malkin equally.
That part makes no sense to me. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there, or how it applies to anything I've said.
No need for me to comment further on that.
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BTW - maybe I missed it but I didn't find any link to VDARE on Malikn's site.
Maybe you did miss it, it or maybe she finally removed it after steadfastly refusing to at first. But whether the link is still there or not... what does that matter in 2009?

The Vdare controversy was several years ago. I dont go to her site anymore, and I dont know, neither do I care if and when she removed the link.
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Your charges of racism - as they stand now - are substantiated so far only by your statement, "I don't remember..."
It wasnt a charge. It was an opinion, --an opinion formed one formed by reading a lot more of her stuff than you've read so far.

An opinion -- I'm still allowed to have one of those, right?
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...are substantiated so far only by your statement, "I don't remember..."
I notice you cut off the rest of my sentence. Not good.
What I said was: "I dont remember the specifics right now, since it's been a few years now"

Not remembering the specifics of a discussion does not mean a person does not remember the essence of what was said.

Maybe if you're going to quote someone you might want to not cut off part of what they're saying, in such a way that it might misrepresent what they said.

Some people might consider that to be a bit misleading. I'd hate to think you'd be intentionally misleading, in an effort to make a point or win an argument.

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Is it unfair for me to speculate that maybe you don't like Filipinos?
That would not only be unfair, unfounded, and untrue, but I would also consider it somewhat stupid to make such a comment, since I never even brought her race into the discussion.


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