Is Obesity a Sin?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Refugee

I agree with you, smoking is entirely intentional, and has no nutritional value, whatsoever.

And, I'm not one of those people who consider every overweight person lost, or a hypocrite, lol.

And, I also realize that in America, it's extremely difficult to maintain a balanced and nutritious diet - it's disheartening sometimes to try to shop for healthy things in the local supermarket, even the so called healthy products contain massive amounts of sugar, sodium, artificial preservatives, etc.

Couple that with the largely sedentary lifestyle of most Americans, and it's rare to find people that are perfectly healthy.

But, I do think that maybe we've done folks a small disservice by not stressing the importance of physical health in the grand scheme of "living life, and that more abundantly".

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Tina

Just a side note: Don't assume that everyone who is obese is that way because they overeat or don't exercise. There are some serious health issues that cause people to be overweight as well, no matter how little they eat or how much they exercise. (Cushings disease, Adrenal insufficiency, etc)

If this turns into another bash the overweight minister thread, I will petition the rest of admin team to allow me to close it. Once this week was enough....... for those who ended up getting the other thread locked -please don't ruin another thread that started out in the right way.

Hi Tina,

I realize there are many who have an illness or a disability that keeps them from balance in this area. This post, by no means, is intended to hurt them or make them feel inferior.

Keep in mind though, we can easily see how America has fallen in this area. In the Asian community, until recently, they were the healthiest people on earth. Good diet, staying active, and keeping thier weight down was the reason. Rice and fish were mainstays. These foods have been proven to be excellent for the body.

Now that western culture has entered thier countries, they have seen a staggering increase in the diseases related to American living. Cancer and heart disease were virtually unheard of in some countries, until we came in with our fast food craze and eat anything mentallity.

There is a religious organization in America that is considered the healthiest than any other; The Seventh Day Adventist. This is because they adhere to strict diet conviction. Thier stats prove a tremendous payoff for eating right and exercising, while giving us good example to follow.

I hope we can learn the blessing of this. God Bless you.

[Refugee]

[QUOTE=2020Vision;662203]

Originally Posted by Refugee

But, I do think that maybe we've done folks a small disservice by not stressing the importance of physical health in the grand scheme of "living life, and that more abundantly".[/QUOTE]

Completely Agree.

haha But I can see it now. Some churches that have no balance, inviting Richard Simmons out to tell us how to be "godly" lol

I think some folks think "Sweatin' to the Oldies" means running the aisles to "I'll Fly Away"!

Which, at least many Apostolic churches still allow dancing and running the aisles, at least folks are getting some exercise!

[Innocuous]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Hi Tina,

I realize there are many who have an illness or a disability that keeps them from balance in this area. This post, by no means, is intended to hurt them or make them feel inferior.

Keep in mind though, we can easily see how America has fallen in this area. In the Asian community, until recently, they were the healthiest people on earth. Good diet, staying active, and keeping thier weight down was the reason. Rice and fish were mainstays. These foods have been proven to be excellent for the body.

Now that western culture has entered thier countries, they have seen a staggering increase in the diseases related to American living. Cancer and heart disease were virtually unheard of in some countries, until we came in with our fast food craze and eat anything mentallity.

There is a religious organization in America that is considered the healthiest than any other; The Seventh Day Adventist. This is because they adhere to strict diet conviction. Thier stats prove a tremendous payoff for eating right and exercising, while giving us good example to follow.

I hope we can learn the blessing of this. God Bless you.

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Innocuous

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.

I agree somewhat, with lack of clean water being one of them.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Innocuous

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. But I believe that the increase in illnesses in developing countries has been traced more to environmental degradation than diet.

True. The eviroment has changed drastically and things like Chernobyl proved what can happen by man's inventions going sour.

It has been proven though, when the diet of these countries changed, so did thier health.

Garbage in, garbage out. It wouldn't surprise me if our food itself has things in it that we know nothing about. This also the result of enviromental change.

Obesity though, is the result of too much of one thing and not enough of the other; this is a fact. And this imbalance has led to soring medical costs and a pharmacutical industry that's rubbing thier hands together with glee.

The real sad thing is that we lose and we suffer for this, unless we stand up and do something about it.

Thanks, NFS

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

"Bodily exercise profiteth little." What was the scripture? Another Scriptural fallacy! Doh! Wait, I have to understand that in context?

What's funny, I'm a pastor and I struggle with this verse, too. When I tell the saints to exercise, "But Pastor, it profiteth LITTLE". I mean, uh, well, uh yeah, I know, but, you know (not trying to sound like Obama here)................

I just say, "A little means a whole lot to the Lord".

How do you like that "context"????

[Innocuous]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

True. The eviroment has changed drastically and things like Chernobyl proved what can happen by man's inventions going sour.

It has been proven though, when the diet of these countries changed, so did thier health.

Garbage in, garbage out. It wouldn't surprise me if our food itself has things in it that we know nothing about. This also the result of enviromental change.

Obesity though, is the result of too much of one thing and not enough of the other; this is a fact. And this imbalance has led to soring medical costs and a pharmacutical industry that's rubbing thier hands together with glee.

The real sad thing is that we lose and we suffer for this, unless we stand up and do something about it.

Thanks, NFS

I totally agree with you about the obesity factor and the impact the environment has on our food. The latter is one benefit of organic foods.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

What's funny, I'm a pastor and I struggle with this verse, too. When I tell the saints to exercise, "But Pastor, it profiteth LITTLE". I mean, uh, well, uh yeah, I know, but, you know (not trying to sound like Obama here)................

I just say, "A little means a whole lot to the Lord".

How do you like that "context"????

That will preach!!!!!!!!!!

[jimmyrrs]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Make sure you include exercise in your routine. Eating the right foods, alone, is not enough. At least 3-4 days a week of 30 minutes or more of cardio work (heart rate above 120). I live in the Northwest so I have to resort to my indoor bicycle to keep myself intact (in shape) in the winter. I'll also do some light weight training to tone my upper body.

Your heart is a muscle and must be exercised otherwise it becomes "flabby". The more you exercise you will also lower your heart rate. This is good. The resting heart rate of an exeptional athlete can be as low as the mid 30's (30 BPM). This is extreme. Mine is around 55, which is considered very good.

Buy a blood pressure device for home. This is great for checking yourself.

I'm 48 years old and have exercised faithfully for the last 21 years. Being in the Marine Corps, they kind of put it in you to PT (Physical training). You never forget.

Because of this, I watch what I eat, my weight is under control, and my blood pressure is excellent. No pills for me, either. This also helps me in my overall well being as a Pastor. The saints appreciate when they see I take care of myself. They will also ask for advice when seeking for change in thier own life.

God Bless: christmasfire

You are correct. I forget to say exercise. My wife has BP problems so she keeps a check on me also.
As a minister, one of the things my org. encourages is for us to have yearly checkups.
I wish everyone would do it.